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Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall vs Rapid7 InsightIDR comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Fortinet FortiGate
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Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
6.9
Number of Reviews
411
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (2nd), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (1st), WAN Edge (1st)
Forcepoint Next Generation ...
Average Rating
7.6
Reviews Sentiment
6.7
Number of Reviews
44
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (28th), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (13th), WAN Edge (13th)
Rapid7 InsightIDR
Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.4
Number of Reviews
32
Ranking in other categories
Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) (14th), User Entity Behavior Analytics (UEBA) (5th), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) (26th), Threat Deception Platforms (5th), Extended Detection and Response (XDR) (17th)
 

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Security Information and Event Management (SIEM)
 

Featured Reviews

Vasu Gala - PeerSpot reviewer
A stable solution with an intuitive interface and quick customer service
I have been working with Fortinet FortiGate, WatchGuard, Sophos, and SonicWall. I'm not as comfortable with SonicWall because of their UI and limitations. I prefer Fortinet above all other options. When it comes to configuration, I am confident in my ability to handle various tasks, including creating policies such as firewall rules, web policies, and application policies. Additionally, I can configure VPNs and implement load balancing, among other tasks. Overall, I feel much more comfortable working with Fortinet. Fortinet has made significant improvements by integrating AI with firewalls for threat analysis and prevention. In the past 2-3 years, they have launched FortiSASE and SIEM, and they also provide SOC services. Both Palo Alto and Fortinet FortiGate are excellent. While Fortinet FortiGate comes at higher prices, the functionality and support justify the cost. They promptly resolve firmware issues and inform all support providers about configuration changes.
OusaidAbaz - PeerSpot reviewer
Provides decent protection for the LAN but complicated interface
We had some licensing issues with its web filtering capabilities. That's why we migrated our web filtering to Cisco Umbrella. Moreover, the interface is complicated. It's difficult to locate all the necessary menus and functions. For example, one of the many issues is with SSH. Even now, we haven't successfully opened the port to connect using SSH mode when we want to change the configuration. It's like a black box—not very open to changes and customization. It's simply not easy to configure. There are other problems, too. For example regarding Forcepoint's Websense component. We had a lot of problems managing the web settings within Websense. That's why we migrated to Cisco Umbrella for cloud-based web filtering. It's not that Forcepoint is inherently bad. The issue is that it's not user-friendly. It is not easy to use. The developers need to redesign the interface (GUI) for better management. It is very difficult to manage. For example, simple actions require too many clicks compared to FortiGate or Palo Alto. That's the main problem.
Asim Naeem - PeerSpot reviewer
Providing comprehensive insight into alerts while working towards AI enhancement
I definitely recommend Rapid7 InsightIDR. It is becoming better, with improvements being continuously made to the product. Right now, I do not have any advice about Rapid7 for other users because every organization or user has different criteria or multiple use cases, so I refrain from commenting on that. I rate the overall solution seven out of ten.

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Pros

"The best feature of Fortinet FortiGate is value for money."
"This version is stable. I don't have any issues with this solution, in our environment, it works well."
"We were looking for the VPN feature and controlling the inflow and outflow of all the traffic within the site and across the sites. We are also using it for the VPN and VLANs."
"The email protection and VPN features are the most valuable."
"I like Fortinet FortiGate's antispam filter, SPN, and clustering features."
"There are many features packed and significant flexibility from Fortinet FortiGate in being able to do numerous things."
"Overall security features and performance routing is good."
"Run Script is the best tool to use in Fortinet FortiGate with multiple environments."
"Next Generation Firewall's best feature is that it can be managed on one platform."
"With Forcepoint, this process is simplified compared to others like Fortinet."
"Forcepoint's stability is satisfactory, for the most part."
"The product's initial setup phase is easy."
"We like the scalability of Forcepoint because with the Forcepoint NGFW solution, we can scale anything. The solution has central management, so we can manage all the branches and devices centrally in one controller."
"Forcepoint is a good, stable solution."
"It is a scalable product. I know a customer who has deployed more than 4,000 firewalls in a single deployment."
"The central security management center and the content management center are very good."
"During simulations or demonstrations, the tool generates alerts, providing details such as the specific application, its origin, and potential threats. For instance, it can identify if an application belongs to a known ransomware group. The system rates the threat, offering a clear detection ratio, such as 97 out of 100. It not only identifies threats but also illustrates the associated behaviors, helping us understand the potential risk to a particular endpoint."
"We were able to identify criminals attempting to login from China and put a stop on their IP locations."
"It improves because several sensors are deployed within the on-premise environment. It can be very efficient if the customer implements and operates it effectively."
"I have seen that Rapid7 InsightIDR provides security to the networks and endpoints in the company."
"I am able to run automated actions based on the output of reports, leaving me extra time to focus on more pressing matters."
"Simple configuration and automatically syncs to the cloud platform."
"The ability to ingest Office 365 log files, then process them into events and display them on a map."
"Enables the use of honey pots, honey users, and honey files to monitor for suspicious patterns."
 

Cons

"I would like to have logs, monitoring, and reporting for a month without extra fees."
"FortiGate should have a better way of detecting and managing the system memory because otherwise if the memory is too low, a system restart is required."
"The Web-filter in this solution is not very good."
"A lack of integration between our data centers."
"Fortinet needs more memory to save the log files. We need it to save the logs on the hardware and not in the cloud. I know this feature is available in FortiCloud, but if we need this log locally, it is not available."
"Fortinet FortiGate has started implementing AI, however, it hasn't reached full maturity."
"In most cases, the IPS engine uses too many resources, which makes Fortinet FortiGate devices unstable."
"We haven't tapped into most of the functionalities that Fortinet FortiGate offers because we're using it just for gateway security. One of the things that I would prefer is a more expansive use of their analyzer. They could do more work on FortiAnalyzer in terms of the data and the information coming from it."
"Its interface is complex when compared with a firewall like FortiGate. Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall needs a management console, whereas FortiGate doesn't need any console. When you have a few devices, a console is not really necessary. It's good to have a private console only when you have a lot of devices."
"The solution needs to build upon its network functionality. It needs to be a bit smarter."
"The security features need to be improved."
"My team is looking for more throughput and better integration with our security framework."
"The ability to dynamically change policies could be improved."
"They need to increase the local support here. There are also some bugs or fixes on which they need to work. They very well know about these bugs. In terms of licensing, I would like them to either increase the number of features in a single license or make licensing more flexible."
"My experience with this Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall wasn't very pleasant due to its complexity. For example, the firewall loses some features when working in a cluster, which is a huge challenge. It caused me several weeks to solve an issue to make the VPN work, even after opening several cases with support. Also, the debug, which should provide essential knowledge about everything going on, the flow of traffic, and how the engine works, wasn't very informative in identifying the issue."
"Forcepoint would be improved if there were more training available."
"The integration capabilities of the solution have certain shortcomings where improvements are required."
"It takes time for the product's support team to resolve issues, making it an area of concern where improvements are required."
"The solution's XDR agents cannot compete with the XDR solutions out there yet."
"Currently, it lacks the functionalities provided by Rapid7's User Behavior Analytics (UBA)."
"The main problem lies in the processes within the client's operating systems."
"Tenable Nessus is easier to deal with. It's more efficient and accurate. InsightIDR is heavier than Tenable in terms of performance and scanning. Rapid7 would be much easier to use if it had a network connector like Tenable. Tenable's connector allows continuous monitoring over the B caps."
"Sometimes, it is hard to get the right queries to use. Currently, the tool lacks a pre-made set of queries."
"Inability to get access to compliance reports within the solution."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"It is an inexpensive solution."
"This is not a cheap solution but it isn't expensive, either. It's a good solution for the right price."
"Fortigate's pricing is competitive."
"Its pricing is good. It's average or normal as compared to Palo Alto and Check Point firewalls."
"The Fortinet FortiGate security features cost approximately $1,500 a year. The firewall itself doesn't have a recurring cost. It's the security features on top of that that you pay for."
"The price for the device and software is high. However, the solution is of good quality and has a lot of features."
"It is not the cheapest one, but its price is very competitive."
"It is a good product from a price perspective versus functionality."
"There is a license required to use this solution and we can purchase it for one, two, three, or five years."
"We have found the price could be reduced. It is a little expensive."
"It requires a yearly subscription."
"It is an affordable product. We purchase its yearly license."
"The solution is expensive."
"The cost is fair, but it could be improved."
"Everything in Forcepoint comes with an individual license, which is kind of a problem. In our last meeting, they said that it may change at the beginning of 2021, and they will try to merge some licenses together. Customers will get more features than what they got previously. We will wait and see."
"The pricing of the solution is normally competitive with other products."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR's pricing is reasonable."
"​Accurately predict your licensing counts as this is a subscription based product.​"
"Licensing is by endpoint and amount of retention time (at least ours is). Default retention was one year, but we are able to push the retention further if needed. There's also a provide-your-own-S3 option for longer retention if you don't want to pay for the additional retention years in your Rapid7 agreement."
"Licensing is straightforward. If, for some reason, you don’t meet the minimum licensing requirements, there is a third-party managed service that can help."
"It is on a yearly basis. For our own company, for about 250 users, it was 16,000 euros a year."
"The pricing of the solution depends on the user. But there is a yearly licensing cost."
"It is more reasonably priced than other vendors."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR's pricing is reasonable but we have challenges with the Minimum Order Quantity. It is not reasonable for customers who have less than one hundred devices. If they can reduce Minimum Order Quantity, it is good. You have to pay around 5000-6000 dollars per year for the product. The pricing includes maintenance and support costs."
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Top Industries

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Computer Software Company
16%
Comms Service Provider
9%
Manufacturing Company
7%
Financial Services Firm
6%
Computer Software Company
15%
Manufacturing Company
11%
Government
9%
Financial Services Firm
7%
Computer Software Company
15%
Manufacturing Company
8%
Financial Services Firm
7%
Government
7%
 

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Also Known As

FortiGate 60b, FortiGate 60c, FortiGate 80c, FortiGate 50b, FortiGate 200b, FortiGate 110c, FortiGate, Fortinet Firewall
Forcepoint NGFW, Stonesoft Next Generation Firewall, McAfee Network Security Platform, Intel Security Network Security Platform
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Sample Customers

Amazon Web Services, Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP, Oracle, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Vodafone, Orange, BT Group, Telstra, Deutsche Telekom, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, CenturyLink, NTT Communications, Tata Communications, SoftBank, China Mobile, Singtel, Telus, Rogers Communications, Bell Canada, Telkom Indonesia, Telkom South Africa, Telmex, Telia Company, Telkom Kenya
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR)
Liberty Wines, Pioneer Telephone, Visier
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