What is our primary use case?
We primarily use JAMS to coordinate jobs between our JD Edwards environment and SSIS packages that we had built to process packages through our SQL server.
How has it helped my organization?
JAMS enables us to organize all these jobs. We have so many jobs that need to run in a specific order, and it's nice to have one place to put them instead of having to look in 18 different places. I still have jobs that aren't in JAMS, so we must go to each machine to find which jobs are running.
Before we had JAMS, we had a set of jobs running in JD Edwards' scheduling system and SQL jobs in its scheduling system. Those two sets of jobs were constantly interrupting each other. If the SQL jobs stopped running, the JD Edwards jobs would stop, so we had to troubleshoot and restart them. It was the same for JD Edwards jobs. JAMS allows us to coordinate the timing between them so the JD Edward jobs finish before the SSIS package runs or vice versa.
JAMS has improved our productivity immensely because everything flows. I don't think we could operate at our current staffing levels without it. While we haven't eliminated monitoring tools, JAMS has freed up staff who were previously responsible for monitoring the systems. It's hard to estimate how much staff time has been saved, but we've been running JAMS for so long that we've probably saved years.
The solution eliminated data slack because we can rerun some of these jobs as soon as they are completed, making the data more flexible and available to the end user.
JAMS can save time when troubleshooting jobs. It depends on the case. Usually, it's an issue in the database, where someone entered an incorrect value. JAMS can't fix that because it's a human problem, but it brings the issue to our attention much faster because we get a failure report. It helps us solve the problem quicker once we notice something is broken.
What is most valuable?
The JAMS agents are extremely important because we use them to run most of the jobs for the SSIS packages and anything coming out of our JD Edwards environment. It helps our users focus more on their business processes because they don't need to worry about figuring out what's working and what isn't.
The solution's code-driven automation is pretty good. We've had a lot of success with it.
What needs improvement?
They recently made changes to JAMS global search feature that I don't like. The search function helps locate jobs. I enter a query, and it gives me a general idea of where it might be instead of having to click the jobs folder and look for it. They changed this with the last update.
We used to do a thing called "setups." I inherited the system, so maybe this is just how they did it before me, but in the old days, they built a setup for each job. The setup would manage the job in case you wanted to add more jobs. Now, the setups are only good if you want to run multiple jobs in a chain or in parallel. If you are running one job, you should schedule the individual job.
We still haven't cleaned that mess up. I'm unsure if that's an issue for anyone else, but we have lots of single-setup jobs running in JAMS. JAMS sees that as two instances, assigning the same amount of resources and memory to the setup and the jobs running under it. If a setup fails, it doubles up the resources. That has almost brought us to our knees a few times when multiple jobs fail. We're using twice as many resources when all the setup is doing is ensuring that the jobs launch.
On the one hand, it's our fault because we need to change how we do things. On the other hand, the older version focused on using setups for everything. It would be nice if they had a tool to convert the old single-job setups into one job.
The JAMS automation code isn't so clean.
The error handling is good overall. Sometimes when there is an exception, the error messages are a little vague, but not nearly as vague as Windows. However, I'm not sure it's a JAMS issue. It may depend on the system it's talking to, such as JD Edwards, SQL, or SSIS. JAMS will tell you that a job broke and you may want to look into it. I generally don't have any issues with its internal reporting, which is straightforward.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have used JAMS for about six or seven years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The downtime has been minimal. Sometimes, we manually kill off jobs and the machine runs slowly because all the memory and CPU resources are at capacity. I would love to have a command line tool that just resets everything. Our biggest issue wasn't JAMS' fault. We didn't pick up where other people were. Now, I watch it. I check the nonproduction server once weekly to see if any jobs are hung and kill them. I report the issues to the appropriate people, but it's a nonproduction server, so it isn't life or death.
It has been extremely stable aside from that. The only time it breaks is when we let it go too long. It's like a 5-year-old with a box of crayons. You can't leave it in a room too long or it will start throwing them at the walls. It does a great job as long as you keep an eye on it.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
JAMS scales well. It has a little scheduling screen you can open to see what's running. We have around 12,000 jobs a day, and we're a small company. I can only imagine what larger enterprises are doing. The scalability is only limited by the amount of memory you have and your servers' performance. That's the only thing holding us back at this point.
How are customer service and support?
I rate Fortra support eight out of 10. I talked to support yesterday. Typically, I'm not calling them about something critical, but I had a few serious cases. I can usually get them on the phone immediately in an emergency. They respond quickly, and I've been pleased with them overall.
How would you rate customer service and support?
How was the initial setup?
I wasn't involved in deploying JAMS, but I understand it was a significant mindset change for us. It took about six months to integrate JAMS with our ERP and SSL. From what I've heard, they loved it. We keep using it and just upgraded to the newer version of JD Edwards. Upgrading was a somewhat painful process because it involved a lot of conversions. JAMS doesn't require much maintenance aside from the occasional upgrade and checking on the jobs once weekly.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
All licensing models are a little overpriced, but JAMS offers a good value, especially given their support response times and ability to handle unforeseen issues like the SFTP transfers. I hope to find more use cases to get a better bang for our buck.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked at another tool when we were upgrading our document management solution OnBase from an on-prem version to the cloud. One of the requirements was that we had to scan the documents through our copy machines and put them on a network. We had to put them into a ZIP file and SFTP it to the cloud API server, and stick it in the right directory.
They had me look into two companies, and I started researching SFTP automation. One of my searches turned up JAMS, and I called support to ask about transferring SFTP. I also talked to the other company, and their tool was awesome. It was highly intuitive, but it would be another $15,000 to $20,000 for one set of processes. We already had JAMS in-house, so we decided to use what we had.
What other advice do I have?
I rate Fortra's JAMS eight out of 10. I recommend reading the manual from front to back. I did that when we were preparing to upgrade, and it helped tremendously. It gets you in the right mindset and helps you understand the requirements. For example, we have JD Edwards, which requires a special setup. In addition to deploying the agent, you need to do more work on your enterprise servers to integrate JAMS correctly, so it knows how to talk to JD Edwards correctly. JD Edwards is very temperamental.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
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Hi Patrick - thank you so much for taking time to write a detailed and honest review. I truly appreciate it! Also, thank you for being a longtime, loyal JAMS customer. I'd like to spend more time with you hearing about your areas for improvement/concerns. I do think moving to version 7 will help address any stability concerns (time and action will tell). I agree that we need to add source control features and improve the monitoring capabilities. I will reach out to you. Thanks again!Best, Peter Hegland
Managing Director of JAMS
peter.hegland@fortra.com