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CTO at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
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Great performance from all-flash, but scaling up or down is an involved process
Pros and Cons
    • "I would like to see it be more hardware-agnostic. Other than that, the only other complication is - and it has gotten better with the newer versions - that lately, once you're running an all-flash, if you need to grow or scale down your infrastructure, it's a long process. You need to evacuate all data and make sure you have enough space on the host, then add more hosts or take out hosts. That process is a little bit complex. You cannot scale as needed or shrink as needed."

    What is our primary use case?

    The primary use of the product is for storage for VDI plus some other storage for file servers and the like. The performance is great. We use it on all-flash.

    What is most valuable?

    Performance and the ability to use all-flash.

    What needs improvement?

    I would like to see it be more hardware-agnostic.

    Other than that, the only other complication is - and it has gotten better with the newer versions - that lately, once you're running an all-flash, if you need to grow or scale down your infrastructure, it's a long process. You need to evacuate all the data and make sure you have enough space on the host, then add more hosts or take out hosts. That process is a little bit complex. You cannot scale as needed or shrink as needed. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Right now, the stability is pretty good. It's getting a lot better.

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    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    It has its quirks but the scalability is good. Given that you have to have the hardware, the right driver, the right framework, and so on, it's not easy to put it together, it's not a plug-and-play solution. But once you get all of that done, it becomes a good product.

    How are customer service and support?

    I have used the technical support, but most of the time it comes down to the manufacturer of the hardware; Cisco or whoever we're using for it. It's a compatibility type of thing. But tech support is okay.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    Our previous solution was SAN-based. I wanted to bring in something new and not only stay with the market, where it's going with the trends, but also to bring in something that is stable enough for production.

    How was the initial setup?

    Once we got all of the driver configurations done, etc., it was easy enough.

    What was our ROI?

    We have definitely seen value, especially in performance.

    What other advice do I have?

    Give it a try.

    Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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    StdcSupe3d9e - PeerSpot reviewer
    Supervisor at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Real User
    With the Vx Rack and SDDC, everything is managed much more easily
    Pros and Cons
      • "I would like to see some of the more traditional SAN functions that are out the now. I can list them: being able to Snapshot on the back-end, better de-dupe, and better compression. Those are the major ones."

      What is our primary use case?

      We use it for all of our Production and it has been very effective.

      How has it helped my organization?

      It's more scalable and faster than what we had, and it's easier to support.

      What is most valuable?

      • The non-complexity
      • The cost

      What needs improvement?

      I would like to see some of the more traditional SAN functions that are out there now. I can list them: being able to Snapshot on the back-end, better de-dupe, and better compression. Those are the major ones.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      We haven't had any issues with the stability.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      The scalability is very good. You plug it in and it goes.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      We have not had to use technical support for vSAN yet.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      We knew we needed a new solution. The other one was too complex and too costly and was never really maintained properly. Too many teams had too many hands in it. With the new ACI solution with the Vx Rack, and SDDC, everything is a lot more easily managed.

      The most important criterion when selecting a vendor is reputation.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What was our ROI?

      It's a liitle hard to say what our ROI is because we bought it to replace an old, traditional setup. It was either pay for maintenance and the like, refresh it, or go to an ACI. We went to an ACI. I don't know what the cost to refresh the other environment was, so I don't know exact numbers for return on investment.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      Our shortlist was really just EMC. That decision was made before I took over the project. We were always an EMC shop, so we moved away from Cisco and went to Dell EMC for it. I don't know why, exactly, but they said to me, "Here, make it work."

      What other advice do I have?

      Be careful of your FTT policies.

      I rate it a nine out of ten. It would be a ten if it had better deduping, compression, and the ability to Snapshot volumes on the back-end.

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      Virtualization Architect at Grupo Sothis
      Real User
      It adapts to workloads with specific storage policies for virtual machines.

      What is most valuable?

      Centered on the VMs, it provides simple and centralized management from a single console. VMware vSAN is focused on the virtual machine and not on a datastore or mon. This allows it to adapt to the workload faster with specific storage policies for virtual machines, without needing to change the storage as in a traditional environment.

      How has it helped my organization?

      Having a single data store for virtual machines, the production of IT administrators has improved because they do not need to work with many LUNs and storage.

      What needs improvement?

      The web console, VMware vSphere Web Client, is not based on HTML5, which makes it difficult to manage. It slows down and page refresh is not fast; time is wasted. I know that vSphere 6.5 is already based on HTML5.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      I have used it for one year.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      I did not encounter any stability issues, as long as it complies with the compatibility matrix.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      I have not encountered any scalability issues; very easy to scale.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      I have not encountered any problems; no calls to support, but support is very good.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      We previously used a traditional environment. We switched because the hyperconverged systems is very easy to deploy, it can scale and provides performance.

      How was the initial setup?

      If you do not know about this technology, you cannot put it into production easily, but I know about vSAN, so it was very easy to deploy a vSAN environment.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      It's a bit pricey. Indeed, there is hardly any price difference with a traditional setting, but it makes that up with the management and ease of use.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      Before choosing this product, we also evaluated HPE VSA, Nutanix, and DataCore.

      What other advice do I have?

      Both vSAN and Nutanix give very good performance, but the support when the infrastructure works with VMware is a simple support; with Nutanix, you have two support vendors if the hypervisor is VMware. Nutanix has a proprietary hypervisor based on KVM.

      Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We have a partnership with VMware.
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      it_user315327 - PeerSpot reviewer
      IT Specialist at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
      Vendor
      Even as we anticipate an increase in the number of users, it's allowed us to simplify our infrastructure, although it currently has no data deduplication feature.

      What is most valuable?

      • Performance
      • High Availability

      How has it helped my organization?

      It's relatively low-cost for a high-performance solution. By using VSAN, we've been able to simplify our infrastructure considerably.

      What needs improvement?

      VSAN currently has no data deduplication, and having such a feature would both be an improvement and provide a feature that Nutanix has.

      What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

      N/A

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      The stability is very good.

      Having now deployed it, it's actually difficult to have any downtime or to even lose data.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      Considering I've only done one VSAN cluster, I'd say that the scalability is good. We haven't yet tried to add more clusters.

      Our company currently has 20,000 users and we expect further growth, so we'll likely have to scale down the road. That said, I don't anticipate really any issues with scalability at that point.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      Customer Service:

      N/A

      Technical Support:

      Tech support is very good as they're responsive.

      We have the Technical Account Manager service, which is very helpful.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      N/A

      How was the initial setup?

      Setup was not complex at all, was very straightforward, and was easily implemented by everyone on the team.

      What about the implementation team?

      We implemented it with out in-house team.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We chose VSAN based on a POC. We looked at Nutanix, but VSAN was more robust for our needs and less expensive.

      What other advice do I have?

      We normally use Gartner as a source, as well as some testing and a POC. The POC was the most important criteria, so my advice would be to do that before committing the resources.

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      Solutions Architect with 51-200 employees
      Vendor
      VMware Virtual SAN vs. EMC ScaleIO and conventional storage arrays

      Software-defined and hyper-converged storage solutions are now a viable alternative to conventional storage arrays so let’s take a quick look at how two of the most popular solutions compare – VMware Virtual SAN (VSAN) and EMC ScaleIO:

      Architecture

      On vSphere this is an easy win for VMware as VSAN is delivered using kernel modules which provides the shortest path for the IO, has per Virtual Machine policy based management and is tightly integrated with vCenter and Horizon View.

      ScaleIO is delivered as Virtual Machines, which is not likely to be as efficient, and is managed separately from the hypervisor – on all other platforms ScaleIO is delivered as lightweight software components not Virtual Machines.

      VSAN also has the advantage of being built by the hypervisor vendor, but of course the downside of this is that it is tied to vSphere.

      Availability

      Win for EMC, since the failure of a single SSD with VSAN disables an entire Disk Group. Although VSAN has the ability to support up to three disks failures where as ScaleIO only one, in reality the capacity and performance overhead of supporting more than one failure means that VSAN will nearly always be used with just RAID 1 mirroring.

      If you need double disk failure protection you are almost certainly better off using a storage array.

      Performance

      Easy win for VMware as VSAN uses SSDs as a write buffer and read cache, ScaleIO does have the ability to utilise a RAM read cache.

      Flexibility

      Easy win for EMC as with ScaleIO you can:

      1. Utilise physical servers running Windows and Linux
      2. Utilise hypervisors running vSphere, Hyper-V, XenServer and KVM
      3. Utilise any storage supported by the OS or hypervisor
      4. Utilise any combination of HDDs and SSDs as required
      5. Create multiple Protection Domains per system for greater resiliency
      6. Create Storage Pools for each storage tier within a Protection Domain
      7. Mix and match nodes with dissimilar configurations

      VSAN has a more rigid architecture of using Disk Groups which consist of one SSD and up to seven HDDs.

      Elasticity

      Easy win for EMC as ScaleIO supports up to 1,024 nodes, 256 Protection Domains and 1,024 Storage Pools, and auto-rebalances the data when storage is added or removed.

      ScaleIO can also throttle the rebuilding and rebalancing process so that it minimises the impact to the applications.

      Advanced Services

      Easy win for EMC as ScaleIO provides Redirect-on-Write writeable snapshots, QoS (Bandwidth/IOPS limiter), Volume masking and lightweight encryption.

      Licensing

      This is a tricky one as VSAN has the more customer friendly licensing as it is per CPU therefore as new CPUs, SSDs and HDDs are released you will be able to support more performance and capacity per license.

      ScaleIO has a capacity based license which is likely to mean that further licenses are required as your capacity inevitably increases over time. There is also two ScaleIO licences – Basic and Enterprise (adds QoS, Volume masking, Snapshots, RAM caching, Fault Sets and Thin provisioning).

      The one downside of VSAN licensing is that you need to licence all the hosts in the cluster even if they are not used to provision or consume VSAN storage.

      Conventional storage arrays

      What are the advantages of a conventional mid-range array?

      1. Rich data services – most storage arrays include de-duplication, compression and tiering along with many other advanced features
      2. Unified storage – many storage arrays support both block and NAS protocols
      3. Replication – many storage arrays support synchronous and metrocluster solutions
      4. Integrated data protection – some storage arrays do not require a separate backup solution
      5. Usable capacity – most storage arrays support parity RAID which can achieve usable capacity ratios of up to 80%
      6. Double disk protection – whilst this is supported on VSAN it is almost certainly not practical at scale
      7. Turnkey solution – with a single contact for support of all hardware and software

      What are the advantages of hyper-converged software-defined solutions?

      1. Multi node failure – can tolerate the failure of more than one node
      2. Rapid rebuilds – as they take place in parallel across multiple drives
      3. Bring your own hardware – take advantage of commodity prices
      4. Built-in “IT Deflation” – as over time hardware unit costs drop
      5. Independent – the software lives on beyond the life of the hardware
      6. Elasticity – non-disruptively grow and shrink as required
      7. Low ongoing costs – perpetual license followed by annual maintenance
      8. Gain new features – just by upgrading the software
      9. Simplified management – compute and storage managed together

      So which is best?

      As always each vendor will build a strong case that their solution is the best, in reality each solution has strengths and weaknesses, and it really depends on your requirements, budget and preferences as to which is right for you.

      For me the storage array is not going away, but it is under pressure from software-defined and cloud based solutions, therefore it will need to deliver more innovation and value moving forward. The choice between VSAN and ScaleIO really comes down to your commitment to vSphere – if there is little chance that your organisation will be moving away, then VSAN has to be the way to go, otherwise the cross-platform capabilities of ScaleIO are very compelling.

      Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with VMware and EMC.
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      Omar_Samir - PeerSpot reviewer
      Public Sector Sales Manager and DBA at Diverse
      Real User
      Very easy to implement in any existing environment
      Pros and Cons
      • "Very easy to implement in any existing environment."
      • "Lacks sufficient storage terabytes."

      What is our primary use case?

      The use case is mainly for greenfields deployment. I'm a senior solutions architect and we are system integrators. Our company is a partner with VMware.

      What is most valuable?

      Very easy to implement in any existing environment.

      What needs improvement?

      I'd like to see more storage terabytes available after excluding the management. 

      For how long have I used the solution?

      I've been using this solution for two years. 

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      The solution is stable. 

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      The solution is scalable. 

      How are customer service and support?

      The technical support is very good. 

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup is straightforward and it's very easy to implement in any X86 server so anyone can use it in their existing environment. 

      What other advice do I have?

      I rate this solution nine out of 10. 

      Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

      On-premises
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      reviewer1089270 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Solutions Architect at a computer software company with 501-1,000 employees
      Real User
      Total hyperconverged facility
      Pros and Cons
      • "The valuable feature of the solution is the total hyperconverged facility."
      • "The solution functions as the marketing says, as long as you follow certain rules."

      What is most valuable?

      The valuable feature of the solution is the total hyperconverged facility. And that either it's hyperconverged, or it's standalone with storage arrays.

      What needs improvement?

      From the implementer side, the solution is very comparable to Nutanix. The only difference is that VMware requires more initial nodes.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      I've been working with VMware for fifteen years.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      Regarding the scalability of the solution, you've got 64 nodes into a stretched cluster for VMware. Nutanix goes a little bit above. The only problem is that due to licensing things, such as when you have Oracle and other things, what you tend to do is multiple clusters in order to avoid licensing costs.

      The biggest network I have implemented was 16 nodes.

      What other advice do I have?

      My advice to others looking into implementing VMware vSAN is to stick to the rules. That's where the problem is. If you don't stick to the rules and prerequisites, you end up having a nightmare.

      People have a tendency to take hyper-converged solutions for granted. They function as the marketing says, as long as you follow certain rules. If those rules are not followed, you end up with a slower infrastructure than you ever had before.

      I would rate this solution an eight out of ten because it lacks flexibility. Those rules I'm talking to you about, how you have to follow the prerequisites, that is well hidden, is that you can't do what you want. You don't have total freedom. You have to respect the rules and that's why respecting the rules sometimes is a burden.

      They always recommend that nodes are the same type, have the same disk structure, and if you change some disk structures, you have to change them on all the nodes. Although somewhere it's understandable, it's a burden. It should not happen.

      Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

      On-premises
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      reviewer917832 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Senior Director at a tech vendor with 201-500 employees
      Real User
      Provides interoperability between VMware products but needs more support for applications
      Pros and Cons
      • "VMware comes with different stacks like VMware Cloud Foundation, which is integrated with different VMware modules. There's interoperability between VMware products."
      • "I would like to see more support for applications. I think currently it only supports applications between two vSAN clusters."

      What is most valuable?

      VMware comes with different stacks like VMware Cloud Foundation, which is integrated with different VMware modules. There's interoperability between VMware products. 

      Another good feature is that you can create profiles for each VM. You can mirror one set of VMs according to another set of VMs. You can also define the quality of service for that profile.

      What needs improvement?

      I would like to see more support for applications. I think currently it only supports applications between two vSAN clusters. I heard that VMware is planning to have applications using vSAN at the hypervisor layer. I'm not sure whether it's available or it's being planned for the next release. I would prefer it to be on the storage layer than on the hypervisor layer.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      I've been working with VMware vSAN for two years.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      I haven't had any issues with the stability of VMware vSAN.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      I haven't had any issues with scalability, but I think historically it supports only 64 nodes. It's a VMware limitation, but in our deployment in Sri Lanka, hardly any customers use that many nodes. If you consider that aspect, then scalability is okay. The largest customer we have here uses two nodes.

      For Nutanix, there is no such limit as far as I know.

      How are customer service and support?

      I'm not happy with the VMware support. There are so many delays attributed to different reasons, like when you transfer the case from one engineer to the other, the second engineer is not aware of what the first engineer has done, so we need to update the second engineer from the beginning. 

      Their response is also not that fast. We have seen that sometimes the competency of the backend engineers is not that high, and because of that VMware support is a bit of a concern for us. Apart from that, I don't have many issues with the product.

      How was the initial setup?

      Setup is not that difficult. We have had a few issues with the implementation. Initial setup is not as straightforward as Nutanix.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      Compared to Nutanix, the design of VMware vSAN is probably the highest in the marketplace in terms of market penetration. I think it's number one, and Nutanix is not that far behind.

      From an upgrade perspective, it's not as straightforward compared to a Nutanix. You need to do a lot of checks and balances before you do the upgrade. With Nutanix, you don't need to worry about it at all, probably because those nodes are coming from Nutanix itself. Because of that, they kind of keep everything to a single file where all these checks will be done initially when you run it. With vSAN, the server could be coming from different vendors like HP or Huawei. So it won't be that easy to come up with a single package to check all of these formula licenses because the upgrade is not that smooth compared to Nutanix.

      What other advice do I have?

      I would rate this solution 7 out of 10.

      My advice is to plan well which workload you're going to use for VMware vSAN. Not all workloads are suitable for VMware vSAN. Before using VMware vSAN, you should consider implementation planning, network sites, and group layout.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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