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Enterprise Solutions Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Real User
Dec 3, 2017
Puts our storage, server, and database all in one box; it's more cost effective for us
Pros and Cons
  • "I give it a nine out of 10 because it gives the customer easy access to a complete database solution within 30 minutes."
  • "From the day of installation we did not have any challenges with this product."
  • "Currently in Ghana, where I work, there are just a few companies that can afford it, because the price is a little bit high."

What is most valuable?

In regards to licensing, it is cheaper to maintain for Oracle applications, and it's an all-in-one solution.

How has it helped my organization?

We had been using a separate server, separate storage, and a separate switch for our Oracle Database, which was costing us a lot of money, because you have to have licenses for each of those devices. But now we have all of them in just one box. We don't have to buy a separate switch. We don't have to buy separate storage. We have everything in just one box.

That's the advantage. It has been cost effective. They have really helped us on that line.

What needs improvement?

Currently in Ghana, where I work, there are just a few companies that can afford it, because the price is a little bit high. Even though for the private sector it's not that high, if this would come in much smaller boxes, and much cheaper, it would be much more affordable for SMBs, that's small and medium businesses. That would be helpful.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very, very stable. From the day of installation we did not have any challenges with this product.

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What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability is not limited. It's scalable because you can add a standard device to the storage space. You are just looking at storage space. You are not looking for memory, because the memory range is high enough. And the capacity is also very fast.

How are customer service and support?

I've worked with HPE, I've worked with other vendors' support. In terms of phone support, I get faster response from Oracle. The support is the highest standard I've seen. They will get to you by all means, and attend to you, the challenges that you have, and in a timely manner. They have the expertise and they have the know-how. The first time we contact them, our issue is solved.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

The reason for our switching is that we wanted an all-in-one solution across databases, and we need to implement an all-in-one solution for our customers' databases. This is very simplified, it's easy to use, you can be in production immediately when you buy the product. That's why we went that direction.

If you work with other companies, you often see a lot of challenges because the storage is usually separate. If they have all-in-one, the licenses are too expensive. What Oracle did was they reduced the price because we are buying their solution. They reduced the prices for the Oracle licenses.

How was the initial setup?

I can set it up in a matter of a very short time. The worst case scenario is an hour, and that happens only if I don't have the information from the customer, That's when it would take an hour. But if I have all the information in front of me, the box can be set up and ready to use.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We had two products in mind. We had a product from HPE, but we did not go with that product because it required us getting extended storage. We were looking at space in the datacenter; we don't have a lot of rack space in the data center. So, we factored all of that into our decision, and then we decided on Oracle.

In addition, it was the licenses, because we use Oracle, and when you buy their product they reduce the cost for you. So, I could use an Oracle database and buy an HPE product where I will not have a reduction in price for licenses. You have to leverage that opportunity from Oracle.

What other advice do I have?

I give it a nine out of 10 because it gives the customer easy access to a complete database solution within 30 minutes. That is, someone can go live with in 30 minutes of buying the product, it's very fast to use. For instance, if you have a small company that you want to set up, and you don't need to put your infrastructure on the cloud, you buy this product and you are ready to go in the next 30 minutes. That's one of the reasons why I give it that rating. 

As well, it's easier to manage, because you have a central point of management which is the Oracle ODA. You can manage it by using the browser interface. 

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Senior Consultant at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Consultant
Nov 22, 2017
We value the appliance architecture with its “everything-in-a-box” highly standardized setup.
Pros and Cons
  • "We value the appliance architecture with its “everything-in-a-box” highly standardized setup."
  • "We value the appliance architecture with its “everything-in-a-box” highly standardized setup."
  • "In my opinion only one single command should be used for all ODA models, as it’s confusing."
  • "Over the past couple of years, I’ve found that the quality of Oracle Support first-level has decreased."

What is our primary use case?

Database consolidation and for X6-2L also database performance improvement due to NVMe storage being used, which dramatically increases I/O performance

What is most valuable?

We value the appliance architecture with its “everything-in-a-box” highly standardized setup.

For the new ODA X6-2 models there is a possibility to deploy also SE/SE2 databases in a bare-metal deployment as well as the boosted I/O performance due to NVMe Flash disks.

How has it helped my organization?

For one customer it consolidated several databases from several Windows physical servers into one single ODA and resulted in increased stability.

For another customer it was used to “isolate” the last Oracle database system on one single ODA, thereby freeing-up SAN storage and rack server slots used by an old Linux cluster.

What needs improvement?

The following issues need some attention:

  • Ease of administration and deployment. With ODA X6-2 there are different “OAK” administration commands for the S/M/L models (e.g. “odacli”) compared to the HA model ("oakcli").
  • In my opinion only one single command should be used for all ODA models, as it’s confusing.
  • Some of the new commands have limitations/restrictions, though I assume they’ll be improved over time.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using the solution since 2012. We implemented 2x ODA V1 systems.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

With the X6-2L we had a couple of early replacements, e.g. PCI card and battery

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We only had a stability issue with the ODA V1 due to an ASM disk mount issue (“ORA-600 [KFDJOIN3]”, bug). This issue delayed the go-live for production databases, but was fixed with the assistance of Oracle Support relatively fast.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We only had a scalability issue regarding local storage, especially on the ODA V1.

How are customer service and technical support?

I would rate the technical support as six out of 10. Over the past couple of years, I’ve found that the quality of Oracle Support first-level has decreased.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We used custom-built single-server or cluster solutions. The ODA provides a high degree of standardization.

How was the initial setup?

The initial deployment of 2x ODA V1s was accomplished in one day, including unpacking and rack-mounting.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Leverage the Pay-As-You-Grow licensing, and consider using the ODA X6-2 S/M/L models also for SE2/SE.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated Exadata, which often is overkill for many small and medium sized databases.

What other advice do I have?

If you go with 1x ODA then at least establish a Data Guard standby system on a Linux server, e.g. Public Cloud. I suggest to use 2x ODAs in each DR setup.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. Trivadis is an Oracle Platinum Partner.
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Sr. Director, Systems & Databases at Gtech
Real User
Oct 30, 2017
Capacity on Demand enables us to configure CPU cores according to licenses, increasing or decreasing as needed
Pros and Cons
  • "NVM Express (NVMe) solid-state drives: This technology brings outstanding I/O performance for midsize databases. We have tested it by doing POCs on customer sites and the results were quite satisfying."
  • "When we think about the technology and the features that this machine delivers, the price seems to provide a lot of value."
  • "Virtualization features could also be improved. A web-based GUI would be a good start."
  • "Virtualization features could also be improved."

How has it helped my organization?

Nowadays, we migrate midsize EBS environments (EBS 11i, 12.1 and 12.2) to these machines. We use the machine as a consolidation environment and we also see a performance increase in the database layer.

Customers with limited licenses prefer this machine, as it has capacity-on-demand features which are completely aligned with Oracle licensing policies.

It is an easy-to-deploy database environment, which does not need much maintenance work. A DBA with knowledge of Oracle technologies, such as ASM and database, can manage it.

The system resources of this machine are quite enough for running midsize Oracle databases but, if there is a need, customers can expand their disk and memory resources.

This machine is also used as a standby database environment, especially for customers who have ODA HA or Exadata in their primary sites, and want to have an affordable engineered system for their standby sites.

What is most valuable?

  • Capacity on Demand: Valuable because we can configure the machine according to our licenses. When there is a need, we can directly increase or decrease the CPU cores of this machine.
  • NVM Express (NVMe) solid-state drives: This technology brings outstanding I/O performance for midsize databases. We have tested it by doing POCs on customer sites and the results were quite satisfying.
  • Virtualization: Using the KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine), we can virtualize this machine and run both databases and applications on it.
  • Affordable price: When we think about the technology and the features that this machine delivers, the price seems to provide a lot of value.
  • Engineered system: This machine is a 1U engineered system optimized, tested and delivered by Oracle. It is a ready-to-use, easy-to-deploy environment for running Oracle products.
  • Support for multiple database versions: Both 11.2.0.4 and 12c databases are supported with this machine.
  • Support for multiple database editions: Both Standard edition and Enterprise edition databases are supported with this machine.
  • ODA X6-2 is easy to manage: It delivers management utilities such as odacli and virt-manager (for virtualization management).

What needs improvement?

Oracle ODA is a fixed server appliance. It would be improved if it were an engineered system with scale-out capabilities.

Virtualization features could also be improved. A web-based GUI would be a good start.

Also VM-specific features, which provide VM-level fault tolerancy, could be added to this product. (This improvement would depends on the scale-out capabilities).

For how long have I used the solution?

I have used ODA X3, X4 and X5 models for three years. This ODA X6-2M is a new ODA model and I have used it the last six months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

None.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No issues, but there is room for improvement here. Currently, there is no scale-out option for any of the models in ODA family.

How are customer service and technical support?

Quite good. When you buy this machine it is registered with Oracle. Any service request is created using this registration. SR creation and updates are fast.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Conventional systems. Most of the time, the reasons for switching are the optimal price and the promising features.

How was the initial setup?

Straightforward. The whole environment is built in one hour by following the Oracle documentation and using the related utilities.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Get benefit from the capacity-on-demand features. License your cores according to your licenses.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Standard HP servers and other members of the ODA family (such as ODA X6-2S, L and HA).

What other advice do I have?

To others looking into this product I would recommend they take a look at ODA X7, which has been released.

ODA X7 delivers more system resources and it also delivers Standard Edition Oracle Database support for the HA (High Availability) model.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. Oracle Gold Partner.
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Oracle DBA at a transportation company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Jul 25, 2017
It hosts many applications and deploys ODA. Patching cycles have many bugs that need to be addressed.
Pros and Cons
  • "Offers easy deployment and setup."
  • "Patching cycles have many bugs that need to be addressed."

What is most valuable?

Offers easy deployment and setup.

How has it helped my organization?

It hosts many applications and deploys ODA quickly.

What needs improvement?

Patching cycles have many bugs that need to be addressed.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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IT Consultant at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Consultant
Jul 12, 2017
Valuable features include an easy installation, good performance, and stability. I would like to see some improvement in the capacity.
Pros and Cons
  • "Scalability, high availability, easy installation, and good performance are the reasons to switch."
  • "I would like to see some improvement in the capacity."

What is most valuable?

Valuable features include an easy installation, good performance, and stability.

How has it helped my organization?

The physical installation is easy. They have single mode and high availability, depending on the budget. It has all-in-one features in it.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see some improvement in the capacity.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been supporting this solution for customers for three years. We are an Oracle gold partner company.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is stable and there have not been any crashes.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Everybody can use it. It is scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

We opened a support ticket for the installation.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We have a customer who is using IBM or HPE. They are going to buy an Oracle database appliance for the scalability, installation, performance, and high available options. I think this is the reason they want to switch now. Scalability, high availability, easy installation, and good performance are the reasons to switch.

How was the initial setup?

You can install all of your visual information on the Oracle database appliance. All of your software is on this virtual machine. Another option is to install your database on an older Oracle database appliance, which is recommended and has the best performance.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I don't know anything about license or prices.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Actually, we always focus on the Oracle products because we are Oracle partners. We didn't compare anything else. Based on the budget, Exadata systems are now in the new Oracle database appliances. There are three options: small, medium, and high availability. It depends on the customer's budget.

What other advice do I have?

The physical installation is easy. They have single mode and high available mode options, depending on the budget. So it has all-in-one features in it.

It has an easy installation, good performance, and it is stable.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. We are an Oracle gold partner company.
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Consultant
Jun 30, 2017
It’s very easy to deploy. Once received, you can unpack it, rack it, install it in less than one day and having a fully usable machine very quickly.
Pros and Cons
  • "Once received, you can unpack it, rack it, install it in less than one day and having a fully usable machine very quickly."

    What is most valuable?

    ODA has two most valuable features. First, it’s very easy to deploy. Once received, you can unpack it, rack it, install it in less than one day and having a fully usable machine very quickly.

    The second feature is its scalability: you can start with a small configuration (regarding Oracle licensing) and then enable Oracle CPU depending on your needs.

    How has it helped my organization?

    Not my organization because I work as a consultant. But one of my customers who has bought an ODA started a database for 10 shops and then he grew the number of CPUs enabled each time he opened some new shops.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    Only one time during an upgrade, because the customer made some modifications in the machine configuration and he forgot that ODA is an appliance, not a traditional platform. So you have to be careful when you want to modify the system. A better way to do it is to ask support, when in doubt.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    Usually my customers switched to ODA because they didn’t have a full-time DBA in their organization, and they wanted an easy to use solution that can be installed and upgraded easily.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is very straightforward. As said above, you can deploy the machine in less that one day. But, as it’s an appliance, if you are not very familiar with this kind of deployment, read the docs and ask support first.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    Usually, the customers I work for who chose ODA have licensed their database with the enterprise edition and they usually buy the diagnostic pack and deploy an enterprise manager cloud control to easily administer their OD platform.

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    Owner at a tech services company
    Real User
    Jun 29, 2017
    ​The solution has good stability and it is easy to work with.
    Pros and Cons
    • "In my opinion, if your organization is constantly evolving and looking for less infrastructure support/planning for virtualization, then this solution is a one-stop-shop and a nice product."
    • "Customers cannot cluster multiple appliances together to create a larger cluster (beyond two servers), nor can they expand the internal disk storage of the system beyond two storage trays."

    What is most valuable?

    The Oracle Database Appliance offers a pay-as-you grow model for Oracle licenses. This model allows you to only license the CPU count that you need, rather than the entire capacity. When virtualized, this is supported for both the database and the application tier.

    How has it helped my organization?

    The solution has good stability and it is easy to work with. We quickly deployed both database and application workloads in a single appliance on a virtualized platform, based on Oracle VM

    What needs improvement?

    Customers cannot cluster multiple appliances together to create a larger cluster (beyond two servers), nor can they expand the internal disk storage of the system beyond two storage trays. This area can be improved.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have used this solution for two years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I did not encounter any issues with stability.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    I would rate the level of technical support 8/10.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I previously used Fresh Install.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup was quite straightforward.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    The pricing and licensing is worth it.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    I did not really evaluate other options before choosing.

    What other advice do I have?

    In my opinion, if your organization is constantly evolving and looking for less infrastructure support/planning for virtualization, then this solution is a one-stop-shop and a nice product. If you are a mid-pace organization and can handle regular databases or Exacta, then you can skip this step.

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    Senior Oracle DBA at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
    Consultant
    Jun 25, 2017
    The manufacturer guarantees that the setup works if you keep up with the patches.
    Pros and Cons
    • "Technical support was excellent."
    • "Storage expansion was not possible for ODA X2 so we frequently ran into storage limitations."

    What is most valuable?

    We value the following features:

    • It is easily scalable.
    • All patches (OS, DB) are bundled by Oracle, so patching dependencies are resolved.
    • Oracle guarantees that the setup works if you keep up with the patches.

    How has it helped my organization?

    Setup of the server and database was easy. At a later point in time we decided to virtualize it, and the basic setup of the box was also quite easy.

    What needs improvement?

    The following issues need some attention:

    • There is no option to combine a second ODA X2 in real application cluster mode. Therefore high availability is limited to same-cabinet RAC, and to offsite standby.
    • Storage expansion was not possible for ODA X2 so we frequently ran into storage limitations.
    • Even in an RAC setup it is not easy to avoid downtime because OS patching requires both nodes to be patched with very short overlapping.
    • Apparently there is a way to avoid downtime, but we did not explore that option anymore because we added a remote standby.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    We used the solution from 2012 to 2016.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    We had some stability issues.

    In the beginning, soon after initial setup and go-live, a bug caused one of the nodes to use all cores while on the other node only the requested cores where activated. This led to instability.

    Also, later a hard disk caused instability while it was "dying".

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    We had an issue with scalability, but only in terms of storage.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Technical support was excellent.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    We didn't use a previous solution. This solution was recommended by a consulting company because of ease of scalability and patching.

    How was the initial setup?

    Initial setup was easy.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    Pricing was reasonable given the high quality hardware parts used and the high availability.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    I was not involved in evaluation of alternative solutions.

    What other advice do I have?

    The ODA is a great server solution for mid-size companies but be aware of the limitations when it comes to real application cluster.

    Also, make sure the solution provides enough disk storage for the life time of the product.

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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