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Cloud Engineer with 201-500 employees
User
Mar 24, 2018
Systems run solidly, although RCM upgrades are painful.
Pros and Cons
  • "UCS Manager worked well for net/blade management and has allowed fairly easy use of dedicated bare-metal blades."
  • "Systems run solidly."
  • "RCM upgrades were not scripted, and you needed to roll on your own. We were led to believe this would be otherwise."
  • "VCE tools, like Vision or AMP were not stand alone, and depended too much on other management consoles."
  • "Troublesome relationships with VCE at the beginning of our use came undone quickly after we went live."
  • "RCM upgrades are painful."

What is our primary use case?

Private cloud hosting of ERP solutions for remote US customers. Install two with replication for cross-site DR.

How has it helped my organization?

Troublesome relationships with VCE at the beginning of our use came undone quickly after we went live, making installs/adds/changes less than cohesive. 

What is most valuable?

UCS Manager worked well for net/blade management and has allowed fairly easy use of dedicated bare-metal blades. VNX Unified performed as expected.

What needs improvement?

VCE tools, like Vision or AMP were not stand alone, and depended too much on other management consoles. RCM upgrades were not scripted, and you needed to roll on your own. We were led to believe this would be otherwise.

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For how long have I used the solution?

Three to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Systems run solidly, although we never really took advantage of VCE tools, like Vision or AMP very much. RCM upgrades are painful.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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BABANIYI LAWALEnterprise Infrastructure Engineer at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
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RCM process truly can be painful and disappointing especially if it involves a reboot of MDS switches which had never been rebooted in a long time and FI. The switches (2) never came on. They were replaced and at some points, FI had to be upgraded before four ports came back online on one of the switches. The RCM itself was not scripted but was quite smooth.

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Director, Security Incident Management with 11-50 employees
Real User
Jan 17, 2018
Capability for scale and growth within a single rack brings strong possibilities for capacity planning
Pros and Cons
  • "Capability for scale and growth within a single rack brings strong possibilities for capacity planning."
  • "OEM services requires too much planning and low availability of certified engineers."

What is our primary use case?

Enterprise private cloud for federal government in a high availability service with primary and secondary datacenters.

How has it helped my organization?

I collaborated in a Vblock growth sizing and analysis. The scalability of the solution is interesting.

What is most valuable?

Capability for scale and growth within a single rack brings strong possibilities for capacity planning.

What needs improvement?

OEM services requires too much planning and low availability of certified engineers.

For how long have I used the solution?

One to three years.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Related to tech support: I believe it is too expensive.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Deputy Head of IT Service at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
Jun 30, 2017
Provides the ability for our organisation to deliver true DR.
Pros and Cons
  • "VMware NSX: Provides the ability for our organisation to deliver true DR."
  • "The implementation and support could be better."
  • "The initial setup was complex. The LCS was a nightmare."

What is most valuable?

VMware NSX: Provides the ability for our organisation to deliver true DR.

How has it helped my organization?

Provides DR capability which we have never had before.

What needs improvement?

The implementation and support could be better.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using this for two years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

There were stability issues, such as various bugs. It was most noticeable with VMware NSX.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

There were no scalability issues.

How are customer service and technical support?

I would give technical support a rating of 3/10.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were looking to move to a strategic and consolidated tech stack and support model, which could support our ambitions of a private cloud.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was complex. The LCS was a nightmare. Project Management (logistics, support) were extremely poor.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Strive for a consolidated ELA.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated NetApp, FlexPod, and IBM Pure Storage

What other advice do I have?

  • The support model is not what it is sold to be
  • Avamary/datadomain is NOT part of the RCM (despite it being sold to our organisation as being so) or supported well within the VCE model.
  • The RCM testing process is flawed. The VMware NSX versions are released before the tests have evolved to complement the new release version. This has led to bugs and non-compatibility falling through the cracks of the process.
Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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it_user375336 - PeerSpot reviewer
Network & System Engineer at a marketing services firm with 51-200 employees
Vendor
Jan 24, 2016
You can increase the storage capacity without having to disrupt, shut down, or schedule down time. They should allow for a little disassembly in certain areas.
Pros and Cons
  • "Many times I personally felt that while this is a good product to implement in any environment, the one key factor is knowing the environment that this is going to go, know the purpose it is going to serve, and plan ahead a minimum of two years ahead what you might see are areas that might need extra upgrading."
  • "The only thing I would like to see is that although they strongly advocate that you cannot change any of its parts, and that would undermine its performance, but a little allowance should be allowed for disassembly within certain areas, which would be nice."

What is most valuable?

Its EMC storage arrays and the combined technology with Cisco in it.

How has it helped my organization?

An example would be one that I've seen where we were having to increase the capacity of its storage array size. We thought that there had to be downtime scheduled, but we found out that you can increase the storage capacity without having to disrupt, shut down, or schedule down time of the Vblock. It was rather seamless to perform.

What needs improvement?

The only thing I would like to see is that although they strongly advocate that you cannot change any of its parts, and that would undermine its performance, but a little allowance should be allowed for disassembly within certain areas, which would be nice.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used it for about two years.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

In terms of deployment, I want to highlight that if it's being flown in from another country, please pay very close and strict attention to details such as to allowing it to thaw, or adjust to the temperature of the environment that it is going to be deployed to before powering it up. I've heard cases where it didn't work because certain controls that were overlooked.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We've had no issues with stability.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We've had no issues with scalability.

How are customer service and technical support?

7.5/10

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were using Aberdeen NAS and combining that with Cisco switches and VMware. We switched as Aberdeen was an expensive way to go, and choosing Vblock was done at a more regional level so it gave us the chance to compare it to the rest, and it's good.

How was the initial setup?

It was done by a different team, but I watched them do it and it seemed straightforward.

What other advice do I have?

My advice is rather simple and not very technical. Many times I personally felt that while this is a good product to implement in any environment, the one key factor is knowing the environment that this is going to go, know the purpose it is going to serve, and plan ahead a minimum of two years ahead what you might see are areas that might need extra upgrading. Try to tie that in with your current plan and budget, and know what power supplies it needs to draw. Speak to your technical managers and also to your IT technologist or whoever is going to be involved in the configuration part of it. Make sure you plan all the way through and always have a backup plan, and have redundancies in place. We are talking about a Vblock redundancy in place. You can have two or three Vblock devices in one place and you realized you are all juiced up. When the equipment arrives have a keen eye for detail, making sure you run your checks as well. Physical checks are also important. When powering up the equipment, follow the guide on which to power first and don't power up as you see fit. On the day of powering up always have the VCE product vendors present to ensure fairness or that you are not accused of tampering.

Once the equipment is handed over, have your engineers run their own tests to ensure everything is running accordingly. Ensure that two people are always present when VCE engineers are going to do the stress and product tests - it never hurts to have a second pair of eyes watching.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Enterprise Architect Infrastructure at a engineering company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
Jan 18, 2016
It basically gives us a menu of firmware versions which we can use to upgrade to the latest version and interoperability is guaranteed.
Pros and Cons
  • "VCE’s secret sauce is their release compatibility matrix which allows us to deploy updates without the need for significant testing."
  • "The VCE Vision product definitely needs some improvement as it is not as easy to use as other commercial off the shelf software."

Valuable Features

I feel this is a tie between two features. VCE’s secret sauce is their release compatibility matrix which allows us to deploy updates without the need for significant testing. The second is the Cisco UCS platform which allows a simple and easy way to manage all of our compute.

Improvements to My Organization

In the past the server team would spend weeks downloading and testing interoperability with different versions of firmware on the servers, switches, fabric, and storage to get the most up to date and bug free operations. Now VCE gives us basically a menu of firmware versions and we can upgrade to the latest version and interoperability is guaranteed.

Room for Improvement

The VCE Vision product definitely needs some improvement as it is not as easy to use as other commercial off the shelf software. There is a lot of configuration that needs to be done from the Linux command line. Hopefully in the future all configuration can be done from an HTML5 webpage. Also, each Vblock needs its own Vision appliance which gets cumbersome when you own many Vblocks. The ability to use a pair of HA vision servers to manage multiple Vblocks would be helpful

Use of Solution

The first Vblock 720 was installed in 2014. Currently we have two Vblock 720 models, each with two XtremIO bricks. They are connected with a vplex metro cluster. We also own multiple Vblock 100s for remote office computing.

Scalability Issues

We have expanded the capacity of our existing systems numerous times without issue.

Customer Service and Technical Support

Extremely good. We usually receive on shore support when we have issues, which is always a plus as there is no “lost in translation” issues that can occur with some offshore support models.

Initial Setup

It was very straightforward, we filled out a spreadsheet called a logical configuration survey which contains all of our integration information and the Vblock arrived configured and ready to be plugged in.

Implementation Team

We used VCE professional services for all of our installations. The team is very easy to work with and extremely reliable.

ROI

The cost of the system really comes down to the discount you are receiving from VMware, Cisco, and EMC. If you deal with these vendors on a regular basis you will better understand the cost of a complete solution.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Virtualization Specialist at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Jan 7, 2016
It gives us the flexibility to grow the environment when necessary. Use host profile, including on the ESXi install on the blades, instead of create all server manually.
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution was implemented by the VCE team, and they did a great job."
  • "I'm not so excited with Vblock solution."

What is most valuable?

I'm not so excited with Vblock solution. The only good point is that the customer does not need install anything because VCE delivers the product ready to be used.

How has it helped my organization?

It gives us the flexibility to grow the environment when necessary.

What needs improvement?

Use host profile as this feature is available on the product acquired, including on the ESXi install on the blades, instead of create all server manually.

For how long have I used the solution?

7 months.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

So far so good.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

No.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No.

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer Service:

The D&I team was very good.

Technical Support:

Did not use yet.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

No.

How was the initial setup?

No.

What about the implementation team?

The solution was implemented by VCE team. They did a great job.

What was our ROI?

I don't have this information.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Just be careful to buy enough licenses to grow your environment when necessary.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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Cloud architect at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Dec 22, 2015
It now utilizes SDx to allow scale out architecture (SDDC/SDN/SDS) and to bypass limitations within production, but improvements come from customers' remarks for evolutions or needs.
Pros and Cons
  • "Legacy built architecture disappeared with VCE converged infrastructure, as only one person with transversal knowledge can achieve the Logical Configuration Survey, resulting in a strong and powerful infrastructure with nearly no downtime, and this is well known by the VCE technical support."

    What is most valuable?

    • Release Certification Matrix (RCM) is the core of a vBlock device. The RCM ensures that all the components inside a vBlock are fully compatible and settled together
    • VCE Vision is also a key into a vBlock and monitors the health of the device
    • VCE have done a lot of improvement on VCE Vision regarding customer feedback. It’s like working hand in hand with VCE

    How has it helped my organization?

    Legacy delivery times are usually known for being slow. Buying computing, storage and network components usually take times as much as you multiply providers. vBlock products are fully engineered and delivered operational, and the VCE promise is that a vBlock is delivered less than 45 days after SOW (State of Work), which means that you have a fully working solution into your datacenter quickly. That’s not only a promise, that’s the reality.

    The first step is the Logical Configuration Survey (LCS) which is done by customers, helped by architects and engineers from VCE for networking, computing, and storage needs. This phase is done after less than 21 days, and assumes it to be the initial configuration build of your vBlock. The LCS is used by VCE to factory build your vBlock, and by the pro-support team to directly key into the device to finalize the delivery and realize the final test before giving you the keys.

    What needs improvement?

    Improvement comes from customers who have sent many remarks for evolutions or needs to VCE. Most of them have been taken into account, and VCE introduced a lot of new features last year in their roadmap like vxBlock (with Vmware NSX), vxRack, EVO-Rail and so on.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    Over the years, VCE has acquired good experience, and now the product lifecycle is completely under control. It’s now my 3rd year using vBlock products for customers like the European Space Agency, La Banque Postale, BNP Paribas, or GDF for their dedicated cloud. VCE used to cover almost all needs in education, industry, banks, and is used by many Fortune 500 companies!

    What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

    No issues encountered.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    As the product is fully bundled, everything is under control. Based on a well known & improved technologies vBlock components are very powerful (even listed into TPC website as the top three regarding computing!) and stable. VCE also takes care of the whole security of the solution and advertise about security issues and how to solve them.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    One of the biggest challenges for VCE was the scalability because of limitations from each vendor. Actually, they introduced new vBlock technologies using xDN to allow scale out architecture (SDDC/SDN/SDS), and bypass limitation within production.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Customer Service:

    VCE have made a priority out of customer satisfaction. You got dedicated people regarding your project! It’s very efficient and valuable. The lifecycle of your product is own by defined vArchitect, vAccount Manager and so on. Definitely 9/10.

    Technical Support:

    Unique entry point for supporting vBlock is very efficient! It definitely worth 9/10. Entry support Core is quite good, 8/10, and Premier support, 9/10, is really impressive!

    With Core and Premier support you have one dedicated Customer Advocate for your day to day communication with VCE.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    I was working a long time ago with IBM BladeCenter-H and HP-C7000 Solutions, when I discovered the Cisco UCS technology. It was fast to provision, easy to deploy, & easy to manage! I was completely seduced by UCS and began to industrialize the implementation!

    So I’ve try to find the best solution working with UCS. At first it was FlexPOD with Netapp. But there wasn’t a unique support entry point and I had to go all providers to find a solution on my issue that was a waste of time & money. Finding a fully bundled solution with engineering and unique support was really attractive!

    How was the initial setup?

    The Initial setup is done in the VCE factory following the LCS document. VCE assume the D&I (Deployment & Installation) of the vBlock and also the lifecycle of their product. It’s very simple, you fill in the LCS, get it validate by the VCE build team and that’s it! 45 days later (and possibly before), you get your vBlock fully operational installed into you datacenter.

    What about the implementation team?

    Deployments are done by VCE directly.

    What was our ROI?

    I don’t have a clear view on financial stuff but I can bring some clues. In traditional companies, you have a silo organization of each team. That means that the technical designers, engineering, and implementation teams in each domain that's SAN/LAN/SYSTEM/COMPUTE. So for each of them you have an expert on their domain. Meaning you have at least nine full time guy’s working on designing and building the solution, and in time there' an understanding of each others constraints.

    Legacy built architecture disappeared with VCE converged infrastructure. Only one guy with transversal knowledge can achieve the LCS. That results in a strong and powerful infrastructure with nearly no downtime, and this is well known by the VCE technical support.

    That doesn’t means that the technical guys are going to lose their job, they just need to acquire an in-depth knowledge of vBlock technologies because they have to run the platform, and adjust it regarding the company needs.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    vBlock can appear as something very costly as first, but settle everything together - man/day, end customer satisfaction, delivery time - and you can figure out it’s a real win-win solution.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    I was using mainly HP and IBM technologies (over 1000 physical blades), and I’ve also tested Dell blades as well. None of them were simple to use without prior implementation of tools to administrate the solution (OpenManage/HP Insight).

    Some of them like Nutanix do not fit our needs and can still be a blackbox. I can’t go into detail, but hyperconverged infrastructure was not a good choice for our deployment specific needs. You can’t scale out computing regarding storage (a Nutanix node is bundled) or simply build bare metal blade for specific use (Oracle RAC for example).

    I’ve looked for a long time at white papers and success stories on Nutanix regarding large scale VDI deployment (+40K) and did not find something relevant. With VCE I was able to have everything on a simple vBlock. IaaS as standard, VDI with XtremIO, Linux Oracle on Bare Metal, and the whole solution is fully supported by VCE.

    What other advice do I have?

    VCE was created through a coalition between VMware, Cisco and EMC in 2009. The idea is to deliver a built-in converged solution based on various IT standards:

    • VMware for virtualization
    • Cisco for SAN/LAN (network layout)
    • EMC for storage

    vBlock is fully engineered & tested by the company. One of the most valuable is the support which is centralized and done by VCE directly with these partners. The products cover small offices, branch offices, medium and large companies.

    VCE have a specialized learning path for partners, Partner Mentorship, within the EMC education portal, and since 2014, VCE has also had a dedicated certification path which is quite similar but more accurate and technical.

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    it_user332232 - PeerSpot reviewer
    IT Architect at a aerospace/defense firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
    Vendor
    Oct 29, 2015
    It gives us a private, internal cloud and a self-provisioning portal for personnel to spin up their own VMs; however, we ran into bugs when upgrading a blade, but that was an EMC issue, not hardware.
    Pros and Cons
    • "UCS brings the entire datacenter system together, letting us offer non-disruptive, seamless upgrades and storage tiering for people with higher IO demands, and it gives us flexibility."
    • "It's pretty good, but not great."

    Valuable Features

    UCS, brings the entire datacenter system together. We can offer non-disruptive, seamless upgrades and storage tiering for people with higher IO demands. It gives us flexibility.

    Improvements to My Organization

    It gives us a private, internal cloud and a self-provisioning portal for personnel to spin up their own VMs.

    Room for Improvement

    There are little things, for example, we ran into bugs when upgrading a blade, but that was an EMC issue, not hardware.

    Stability Issues

    It’s very stable, no more bugs than any other problems with 2,500 operating systems.

    Scalability Issues

    It’s very scalable. Every year we upgrade our capacity and just add another blade.

    Customer Service and Technical Support

    It's pretty good, but not great.

    Initial Setup

    It's straightforward, although complex too because it's a large system.

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    Top 10
    Apr 19, 2015
    VCE's change of ownership

    In case you have not heard, the joint initiative (JV) founded in the fall of 2009 between Intel VMware Cisco and EMC called VCE had a change of ownership today.

    Well, kind of…

    Who is VCE and what’s this Zen stuff?

    For those not familiar or who need a recap, VCE was created to create converged server, storage I/O networking hardware and software solutions combing technologies from its investors resulting in solutions called vBlocks.

    The major investors were Cisco who provides the converged servers and I/O networking along with associated management tools as well as EMC who provides the storage systems along with their associated management tools. Minority investors include VMware (who is majority owned by EMC) who provides the server virtualization aka software defined data center management tools and Intel whose’s processor chip technologies are used in the vBlocks. What has changed from Zen (e.g. yesterday or in the past) and now is that Cisco has sold the majority (they are retaining about 10%) of its investment ownership in VCE to EMC. Learn more about VCE, their solutions and valueware in this post here (VCE revisited, now and Zen).

    Activist activating activity?

    EMC pulling VCE in-house which should prop up its own internal sales figures by perhaps a few billion USDs within a year or so (if not sooner) is not as appealing to activists investors who want results now such as selling off parts of the company (e.g. EMC, VMware or other assets) or the entire company.

    However EMC has been under pressure from activist shareholder Elliot Management to divest or sell-off portions of this business such as VMware so that the investors (including the activist) can make more money. For example there have been the recent stories about EMC looking to sell or merge with the likes of HP (who is now buying back shares and splitting up its own business) among others which certainly must make the activist investors happy.

    However to the activist investors who want to see things sold to make money they are not happy with EMC off buying or investing it appears.

    Via Bloomberg

    “The last thing on investors’ minds is the future of VCE,” Daniel Ives, an analyst with FBR Capital Markets, wrote in a note today. “EMC has a fire in its house right now and the company appears focused on painting its bedroom (e.g. VCE), while the Street wants a resolution on the strategic ownership situation sooner rather than later.”

    Read more at Bloomberg

    Whats this EMC Federation stuff?

    Note that EMC has organized itself into a federation that consists of EMC Information Infrastructure (EMCII) or what you might know a traditional EMC based storage and related software solutions, VMware, Pivotal and RSA. Also note that each of those federated companies have their own CEO as well as have holdings or ownership of other companies. However all report to a common federated leadership aka EMC. Thus when you hear EMC that could mean depending on the context the federation mother ship which controls the individual companies, or it could also be used to refer to EMCII aka the traditional EMC. Click here to learn more about the EMC federation.

    Converging Markets and Opportunities

    Looking beyond near-term or quick gains, EMC could be simply doing something others do to take ownership and control over certain things while reducing complexities associated with joint initiatives. For example with EMC and Cisco in a close partnership with VCE, both parties have been free to explore and take part in other joint initiatives such as Cisco with EMC competitors NetApp, HDS among others. Otoh EMC partners with Arista for networking, not to mention via VMware acquired virtual network or software defined network Nicira now called NSX.

    EMC is also in a partnership with Lenovo for developing servers to be used by EMC for various platforms to support storage, data and information services while shifting the lower-end SMB storage offerings such as Iomega to the Lenovo channel.

    Note that Lenovo is in the process of absorbing the IBM xSeries (e.g. x86 based) business unit that started closing earlier in October (will take several months to completely close in all countries around the world). For its part Cisco is also partnering with hyper-converged solution provider Simplivity while EMC has announced its statement of direction to bring to market its own hyper-converged platform by end of the year. For those not familiar, Hyper-converged solutions are simply the next evolution of converged or pre-bundled turnkey systems (some of you might have just had a Dejavu moment) that today tend to be targeted for SMBs and ROBOs however used for targeted applications such as VDI in larger environments.

    What does this have to do with VCE?

    IF EMC is about to release as it has made statement of direction statements of a hyper-converged solution by year-end to compete head-on with those from Nutanix, Simplivity and Tintri as well as perhaps to a lesser extent VMwares EVO:Rail, by having more control over VCE means reducing if not eliminating complexity around vBlocks which are Cisco based with EMC storage vs. what ever EMC brings to market for hyper-converged. In the past under the VCE initiatives storage was limited to EMC and servers along with networking from Cisco, hypervisors from VMware, however what happens in the future remains to be seen.

    Does this mean EMC is moving even more into servers than just virtual servers?

    Tough to say as EMC can not afford to have its sales force lose focus on its traditional core products while ramping up other business, however, the EMC direct and partner teams want and need to keep up account control which means gaining market share and footprint in those accounts. 

    This also means EMC needs to find ways to take cost out of the sales and marketing process where possible to streamline which perhaps brining VCE will help do.

    Will this perhaps give the EMC direct and partner sales teams a new carrot or incentive to promote converged and hyper-converged at the cost of other competitors or incumbents? Perhaps, lets see what happens in the coming weeks.

    What does this all mean?

    In a nut shell, IMHO EMC is doing a couple of things here one of which is cleaning up some ownership in JVs to give it self more control, as well as options for doing other business transactions (mergers and acquisitions (M&A), sales or divestiture’s, new joint initiatives, etc). Then there is streamline its business from decision-making to quickly respond to new opportunities as well as routes to markets and other activities (e.g. removing complexity and cost vs. simply cutting cost).

    Does this signal the prelude to something else? Perhaps, we know that EMC has made a statement of direction about hyper-converged which with VCE now more under EMC control, perhaps we will see more options from under the VCE umbrella both for lower-end and entry SMB as well as SME and large enterprise organizations.

    What about the activist investors?

    They are going to make noise as long as they can continue to make more money or get what they want. Publicly I would be shocked if the activist investors were not making statements that EMC should be selling assets not buying or investing.

    On the other hand, any smart investor, financial or other analyst should see though the fog of what this relatively simple transaction means in terms of EMC getting further control of its future.

    Of course the question will stay does EMC remain in control of its current federation of EMC, VMware, Pivotal, RSA along each of their respective holdings, does EMC doe a block buster merger, divestiture or acquisition?

    Take a step back, look at the big picture!

    Some things to keep an eye on:

    • Will this move help streamline decision-making enabling new solutions to be brought to market and customers quicker?
    • While there is a VMware focus, don’t forget about the long-running decades old relationship with Microsoft and how that plays into the equation
    • Watch for what EMC releases with their hyper-converged solution as well as where it is focused, not to mention how sold
    • Also watch the EMC and Lenovo join initiative, both for the Iomega storage activity as well as what EMC and Lenovo do with and for servers
    • Speaking of Lenovo, unless I missed something as of the time of writing this, have you noticed that Lenovo is not yet part of the VMware EVO:Rail initiative?

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    May 1, 2014
    I cannot praise the support I got from them enough but a vBlock only makes really good sense if your existing infrastructure is Cisco based

    So, you want to get into the whole virtualization scene and you don’t want to deal with vast amounts of vendors, contracts and all the other things that tend to follow' A modern and virtualized infrastructure can be a pain, but VCE has a remedy for this, at least within certain parameters.

    The VCE vBlock™is an all-in-one virtualization platform that comes complete with a midrange, tiered  FC SAN from EMC, Cicso 5548 switches to tie into your existing infrastructure (assuming you already have one that is) and a Cisco UCS blade chassis for processing power. All fit into a couple of pretty racks, delivered and configured (if you want it so) by capable professionals.

    Okay. So far, so good, so what'

    Let’s discuss the good part first: You get a complete package, and a decent UI to go with it. All you need to do is provision a set number of data stores, hosts and vlans, press deploy and 2-3 hours later you are ready to go. No mucking about with WWNs, LUN provisioning, CDs with ESXi and so on. UIM, as the UI management tool is called, feels a bit clunky right off the bat, but you get used to it and chances are that you won’t see all that much of it when you have deployed your stuff anyway.

    EMC’s tiering also seems to work OK, from I admit, my limited experience with it. If it works, there is no reason to overly mess with it.

    And now for the not-so-good, at least in this author’s not so humble opinion.

    A vBlock only makes really good sense if your existing infrastructure is Cisco based. Cisco has their own way of doing stuff and does not play nice with other equipment. The processing hardware isn’t really that good either, especially considering what Cisco likes to charge you for what is nothing more than mid range x86 blades.

    In everyday operations you hit another couple of snags. The default setup is based on the (in VMware circuits) highly debated Nexus 1000V™. I will not get into the love-hate relationship VMware admins have with this piece of software, but I feel obliged to mention that it dies for me no less than 3 times in a 2 month time span taking the entire production environment with it. Put a couple of hundred servers on a vBlock and that is costly downtime. However, there is nothing that stops you from using VMware switches, but Nexus 1000V™ is somewhat implied.

    A word on VCE support: They are very competent and the most helpful support team I have ever come across in my 15 years in this business. I cannot praise the support I got from them enough.

    2 considerations you need to make are:

    Can I afford this' The vBlock is portrayed as a high end piece of machinery. The problem is that all the components are mid range at best.

    Can I live with the configuration limitations' You are stuck at Cisco’s mercy if you want to upgrade. Cisco does a lot of stuff well, and getting paid is one of them.

    How about scaling' This is a possible issue for the enterprise market. Each vBlock is its own entity. The VMs on a vBlock are stuck there and can’t be moved off it without downtime and some pretty heavy admin magic. Assuming it is available that is. 10 vBlocks means you will have 10 SANs, 20 physical 5548 switches and so on to administer. Imagine the horror of administering 100 of these babies'

    PROS:

    Easy setup and roll out

    Comes in a complete package with one vendor and excellent support

    CONS:

    Price

    Scalability

    (Expensive) Vendor lock in

    Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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    Well written and well argued!