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Manager of Oracle Technology/DevOpsManager at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
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May 31, 2016
The most valuable features are that it's easily deployable and easily scalable.
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable features are that it's easily deployable and easily scalable."
  • "It's highly expensive and there are other much, much better products out for the cost of peanuts."

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features are that it's easily deployable and easily scalable. It'll shrink and can grow as much as you want. Those are the benefits, but when compared to other products, such open-source Tomcat, we've considered moving from WebLogic to Tomcat because WebLogic is very expensive.

How has it helped my organization?

It's scalable for the company and easily deployable. The GUI and integration with SSO is more beneficial than other available options.

What needs improvement?

It's definitely a complex solution. It throws at least a million lines of errors just for one password. You can get a small issue that could potentially generate about a thousand of lines with warnings, and those warnings might mean nothing. It will just pop up warnings, so you'd have alerts for nothing. It's not that easy from the admin perspective if you're not really familiar with what you're getting into. It's not 100% GUI, so that you need to know lots and lots of configuration files.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

We've had no issues with deployment. In fact, it deploys very easily.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

WebLogic is not a light product. Java uses the whole memory of the server so it's a memory hog.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We've had no issues with scaling it for our needs.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was easy and pretty straightforward.

What about the implementation team?

We did the implementation ourselves with our in-house team.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It's quite expensive.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

If it were like Tomcat, configuring .xml files would take care of some things, but there's not a particular main .xml file available with WebLogic. In fact, there are so many important .xml files that are needed for WebLogic.

What other advice do I have?

It's highly expensive and there are other much, much better products out for the cost of peanuts.

Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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I was involved in a project in 2002 - now in maintenance. Weblogic was made more complicated by our design actually. We setup tomcat as the front end web page and web logic as the application server, two tiers, and to develop some of our own technology. I think weblogic is not that complex; it is actually a very good platform to deploy applications on. That is my opinion. It does probably cost a lot, but if you want something that is supported by a company, you have to pay the bucks, otherwise, you can struggle with the open source stuff, which really isn't so bad, but sometimes management and the higher ups preferred the paid for options.

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Principal Consultant at Rubicon Red
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May 18, 2016
It gives you a console for administration, creating resources, managing those resources, troubleshooting, diagnostics, and everything else all in one place.
Pros and Cons
  • "Technically, there's absolutely nothing that you cannot get from a WebLogic Server in terms of availability and scalability."

    Valuable Features:

    I like that fact that it is the most scalable and the best-of-breed application server for hosting any kind of an application. One of the best things about WebLogic Suite is that the enterprise customers we work with have a broad spectrum of Oracle products that they use, from BPM to E-Business Suite to whatever. One thing common to all of these solutions is the fact that they're all on WebLogic server.

    It's multi-tenant, is highly available, and I believe it's the best-in-class application server for Java. Most of Oracle's products are in Java, so they are all supported on WebLogic Server. That is one of the biggest aspects. It's very reliable, it's enterprise-grade, so we get great support from Oracle as well.

    Technically, there's absolutely nothing that you cannot get from a WebLogic Server in terms of availability and scalability. It is very easy to maintain, and if you look at other JMX process based servers, they don't give you a great console. But WebLogic Server gives you a console for administration, creating resources, managing those resources, troubleshooting, diagnostics, and everything else all in one place.

    Improvements to My Organization:

    In an enterprise, a solution is not delivered by a single system but a lot of them. You would often find that to achieve a particular business function, you're using ABS, you're using Server Suite, you're likely using several other solutions. So WebLogic Server provides one common platform for deploying all of these applications, and you don't have to invest in five different application servers for five different applications that you're using. It helps consolidate your systems, especially your middleware servers.

    Room for Improvement:

    Multi-tenancy is needed. It is starting to come in the latest releases, but it is a very basic multi-tenant feature at the moment. I would like a more enterprise-grade multi-tenancy feature coming into WebLogic. Many organizations use WebLogic for all of their applications, but what we also have to think about is that each application wants to share the platform, and they want some sort of isolation from other tenants or other business units in an organization. How WebLogic addresses that challenge is by having multiple tenants that share the same infrastructure without disturbing each other.

    Use of Solution:

    I've been using WebLogic since v5.0 to v12.2, where it is right now.

    Deployment Issues:

    We've had no issues with deployment.

    Stability Issues:

    Stability is not necessarily dependent upon WebLogic, but it depends upon the type of application that you deploy. It's a common platform where you can put pretty much everything. Most often than not, what we see is a combination of WebLogic and the application that you deploy on top of it which causes stability issues, not just in isolation.

    For example, you know that you have Java and that Java has memory leaks. But it's not just Java that's causing memory leaks, it's the application and Java in combination that can cause this problem. The same thing with WebLogic, so it's not just WebLogic alone. It is almost always your application as well as WebLogic Server together that causes a problem. But as a platform, it is very stable.

    Scalability Issues:

    We can scale it to thousands of users without a problem. We've had no issues at all with scalability.

    Initial Setup:

    The initial setup is very easy and very straightforward.

    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. Partners
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    Engagement Manager at NEC Australia - Oracle at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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    Apr 25, 2016
    It's allowed us to contain and administer the WebLogic environment as a managed service. We support and manage our customer environments onsite and remotely by using the web GUI.
    Pros and Cons
    • "The High Availability and high performance provide a solid foundation for application hosting."
    • "There is little to improve, but I would say the deployment process could be more user-friendly."

    Valuable Features

    • The managed server and deployment architecture.
    • Being able to isolate or combine applications at various levels whilst taking advantage of load balancing and clusters.
    • The web interface is fairly easy to use, but for those who want it, the majority of commands can be executed via scripts WLST.
    • Being able to create deployment templates for use on other hosts.

    Improvements to My Organization

    It's allowed us to contain and administer the WebLogic environment as a managed service. We support and manage our customer environments onsite and remotely by using the web GUI.

    Room for Improvement

    There is little to improve, but I would say the deployment process could be more user-friendly. Using staging to secure your deployment environment does bring its problems. They are easy to solve but require access to the drive space.

    Use of Solution

    I've been using it since 2009.

    Deployment Issues

    We have come across some issues with clustering, but it was the third-party application that needed the change and not WebLogic.

    Stability Issues

    We have found that on the odd occasion of a host shutdown, the services and Node Manager wouldn’t start the deployments as specified. Manual intervention was required.

    Scalability Issues

    We've had no issues scaling it for our needs.

    Customer Service and Technical Support

    It's very good as Oracle support has always been useful. It's a bit painful to fill out all the details and provide all the logs, but it works so I’ll keep using it. The people on the other end are usually very experienced and resolve the issues relatively quickly.

    Initial Setup

    It's straightforward and easy to install and set up. There is plenty of documentation and online experience to follow and learn from.

    Implementation Team

    We are the vendor and implement the solution for our customers. My advice would be to get yourself on one of the administration workshops that Oracle provides or self-teach on YouTube. Talk to a partner in your area as they can provide you with workshops and training.

    Pricing, Setup Cost and Licensing

    Oracles prices/licenses are painful to deal with. Understand the architecture and application requirements up front, i.e. number of users or hardware available.

    Other Solutions Considered

    WebLogic has been first choice for us numerous times.

    Other Advice

    If you are unsure about your decision, run a POC with authorization from Oracle through a partner like NEC. Trial and test it for 30 days and see if it meets your requirements. Ensure you have a WebLogic administrator to help guide you through it.

    Understand the recommended requirements for the apps and assign the correct memory. This will allow you to achieve a good user experience. The High Availability and high performance provide a solid foundation for application hosting. The apps teams see the benefit and stability when they start using it.

    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. We have a very good relationship with Oracle and support numerous customers throughout Australia and the world.
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    it_user418299 - PeerSpot reviewer
    Lead Technical Consultant at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
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    Apr 24, 2016
    The cluster configuration and cluster performance are the most valuable features for us.
    Pros and Cons
    • "The cluster configuration and cluster performance are the most valuable features for us, and they're better in this most recent version than in previous ones, making it a better solution overall."

      What is most valuable?

      The cluster configuration and cluster performance are the most valuable features for us. In fact, they're better in this most recent version than in previous ones, making it a better solution overall.

      What needs improvement?

      Transactions monitoring graphics need to be improved. When I need to monitor sample transaction response times or something similar, I need to use third-party tools. I assume that it is possible to see transaction performances on the WebLogic console with some graphics, so I'd like to have that feature.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      I have been using WebLogic for 10 years, and v12.1.3 for the last year.

      What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

      If the packet is bigger than 800MB, then the deployment is very, very difficult with the Weblogic admin console. To make this work, we have to use wlst.sh scripts to deploy.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      We have had no issues with the stability.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      There have been no issues scaling it for our needs.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      Oracle Support is perfect for their Database, but for WebLogic/CC&B it is not so good, and for that I give it a 6/10.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      I have used many application servers, and this is the best for performance and for a user-friendly management console.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What about the implementation team?

      I have implemented it both through a vendor team and through our in-house team.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      Due to the exchange rate, it is expensive for Turkish companies.

      What other advice do I have?

      It gives good performance, but we still have to use third-party tools for monitoring. You should take that into consideration when deciding whether to purchase it.

      Disclosure: My company does not have a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer.
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      We have used WebLogic over 10+ years. It is a very good and stable application server. The patching and upgrading processes are seamless. However, whenever we submit a service call and/or bug, it takes awhile for the support team to respond.

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      Managing Director at a training & coaching company with 51-200 employees
      Vendor
      Apr 21, 2016
      It's especially useful for big data applications if you're using APIs or have geo-spatial data or complex data sets.
      Pros and Cons
      • "It's very stable, can handle a lot of database storage and repositories, and is really the backbone of a lot of our systems that we use for our federal customers."

        Valuable Features

        It's a very scalable, extensible, middleware component. It's especially useful for big data applications if you're using APIs or have geo-spatial data or complex data sets.

        It's also a very affordable and efficient.

        Room for Improvement

        I would like to see Oracle offer the WebLogic Suite in other areas, like SaaS or PaaS. From what I've seen at Oracle World, they're already moving in that direction, so it gives you a broader portfolio or different ways to leverage their technology.

        Deployment Issues

        We haven't had any issues with deployment.

        Stability Issues

        It's very stable. It can handle a lot of database storage and repositories. It's really the backbone of a lot of our systems that we use for our federal customers. It's very smooth and not buggy, and now that more people are learning how to troubleshoot and work with the product, it's becoming exponentially easier to find quality to support it during the WebLogic application process.

        Scalability Issues

        Obviously, it works best with Exadata servers, so that's what it really helped us with. We were running WebLogic on servers that weren't optimized for that software. I think we may have had it on IBM Blade and the servers we were using weren't necessarily optimized for the WebLogic tool. Once we kicked in the Exadata server, it increased the time to process.

        Customer Service and Technical Support

        The level of technical support is very good. The SMEs that are coming to help us have been excellent. It's very easy to get a hold of them and we talk weekly with our account reps to make sure things are going well. They are very approachable and always easy to get hold of, as well as being very knowledgeable.

        Other Advice

        We just like Oracle products.

        Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer. We're partners.
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        it_user487122 - PeerSpot reviewer
        it_user487122Managing Director at a training & coaching company with 51-200 employees
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        Yes, since Oracle World I have been exposed to Oracles IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS product / service offerings. I am very impressed, thank you for the comment.

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