Co-Founder and Managing Director at E&I Business Enterprise
Reseller
Top 10
Dec 10, 2024
Oracle BPM should ensure its product is aligned with current technology by keeping up with advancements like AI. There are delays in offering the latest technology, so there is a need to be more responsive to technological changes.
The stability of this solution deteriorates when more than one thousand instances are concurrently active.
The Oracle database is not an easy product to maintain.
I would like to see the next version of this solution be simpler and more transparent about what is happening at the level of the database. This would allow users to better understand problems.
The technology that is being used for the UI needs to be updated to make it quicker. Oracle is using the ADF technology, which is a very heavy framework. Oracle cloud uses the JET framework, which is much faster and consumes fewer resources.
Oracle needs to return some of their focus to the Fusion products, rather than concentrating so heavily on cloud-based technologies.
Overall, the engine and the UI both have to be made lighter.
Director of Tech and Consulting Services at Oriontax
Reseller
Sep 28, 2023
In terms of our overall data science solution, pricing is an area that could use improvement. However, in terms of features, the analytics perform exceptionally well. The entire suite could benefit from faster processing, and that's an area for improvement. Pricing should be looked into. Additionally, the technical understanding of the company and the team is not as fast as it could be. So, more focus on marketing is needed. We have very few skill sets, even from the technical team, that understand the platform. Customers tend to look for open-source solutions without fully understanding the capabilities of the Oracle BPM solution. So, marketing would be crucial to showcase its features.
Oracle BPM could benefit from improvements in its user interface, integration capabilities, and performance/scalability. These enhancements would enhance user experience and make it more adaptable to various business needs. Refer this source : CCSP Training
Architect at a tech vendor with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
Nov 28, 2022
The price is a little expensive for me. The ROE could be improved. The time it takes to get from deployment to production could be faster. We had to make a lot of little changes in the design. Enabling those changes, testing, and deploying the solution becomes time consuming. If there's a specific issue with the product itself, then interacting with the customer support team and getting the new package or new updates from Oracle is time consuming.
Though Oracle BPM is a stable solution, it's very heavy, so this is one area for improvement. If Oracle can make the components of Oracle BPM lighter, and if the deployment for the solution could be easier, that would make Oracle BPM better.
Software Development Manager at Anadolu Hayat Emeklilik
Real User
Jul 28, 2022
Oracle BPM is hard to configure and requires some experience to use it. It is a complicated tool. The documentation could also be improved. It is hard to easily find configuration information or user manual on the internet.
Lead Software Engineer at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Jul 7, 2022
Oracle BPM is not used directly by our customers. It is a tool for developers. Oracle tried to make it a tool for business users too but from our point of view, this positioning is wrong. For example, one of the critical features that is not working well enough, is migration of processes when you deploy a new version of processes. Every time we roll out a new version of processes, we have to migrate to a new process. The process of this migration was not very smooth. We later decided that it would be easier for us to stop all processes, deploy a new version and then restart. We use our own interfaces because the standard interface was not sufficient for our customers. We tried the business rules, but after some time, we stopped using them. Right now it's mainly the process management functionality that we use.
Software Engineer at a computer software company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Dec 28, 2021
Oracle BPM could probably be improved with respect to the cost. When you are using this product, it'll be a bit costlier for the ROA. I think they should do some discounts on these products, especially for the licenses.
Head of Architects at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Jul 26, 2020
From my knowledge of this solution, I don't see that the Oracle BPM includes features such as the growth of discovery and process mining. Technical support could be better. In the next release, I would like to see the growth of discovery and process mining features added. Also, the ability to be containerized, and to support the cloud-native deployments.
Business Solutions Director & CTO at a computer software company with 201-500 employees
Real User
Dec 16, 2019
The solution needs to offer better integration with third-party systems. The solution should focus more support towards new department methods that assist with the architecture of the deployment itself.
We have had some issues with version migration, from one version of processes to another. We would have to call Oracle Services but on a day to day, we didn't have any issues. I would like for the design of the migration of process instances from one version to another to be more visual. It would be very helpful to have visual tools in order to design the equivalence of tasks and process payload between versions. Until now bpm database migration has been needed. I would also like more UI flexibility, the ADF framework is too Oracle-specific.
The stability of this solution deteriorates when more than one thousand instances are concurrently active. The Oracle database is not an easy product to maintain. I would like to see the next version of this solution be simpler and more transparent about what is happening at the level of the database. This would allow users to better understand problems. The technology that is being used for the UI needs to be updated to make it quicker. Oracle is using the ADF technology, which is a very heavy framework. Oracle cloud uses the JET framework, which is much faster and consumes fewer resources. Oracle needs to return some of their focus to the Fusion products, rather than concentrating so heavily on cloud-based technologies. Overall, the engine and the UI both have to be made lighter.
Director - Risk and Finance IT at Credit-Suisse (USA)
Real User
Sep 9, 2019
The API interfaces could be more robust. Existing APIs in the product need to be fine-tuned, made more robust and flexible for adoption. The product should be made available with all its current capabilities addressing known shortcomings on the cloud. I would like to see current out-of-the-box MIs enhanced, offering more interactive capability. Introduce machine learning and AI capabilities. Change the front end and the ability to offer forms for business users.
Senior Enterprise Architect at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Jun 11, 2018
In the future, the market is consolidating towards microservices approaching software development product. Microservices can be the future of programming, and the old way of doing middleware and implementing middleware services could shift to the microservices side, so we will need some hybrid solutions. At this time, we use the microservices, and microservices will support external digital applications that we publish on mobile and website. We will keep using the middleware side for delivery and back office systems. Therefore, it will not be 100% microservices or it will not be 100% middleware, but instead we are going to use a hybrid approach where some parts use microservices. Thus, it would be good if they could provide some additional connectors or an application developer environment for microservices. It could have easier administration. It takes time to configure and deploy. We need more team messaging buzz, like Kafka. People do so much business and logic coding in an ESP site, but what we need more of is lightweight messaging mechanisms, like Kafka. This is also the trend. We need some type of pretense for best practices for new generation programs, which can serve digital customers.
Although it is a robust product, its learning curve can be steep without having the proper training and mentoring on the first project. As with most BPM projects interaction with people is a key element. Creating user interfaces the end users see and interact with as work item instances travel through process can be challenging. If ADF is used, most companies struggle due to its complexity, steep learning curve, and the need to tune it for performance. The web form design tool in Composer (currently an OEM product from Frevvo) is simple to use for citizen developers, but can be lacking in the functionality most projects need. To get around these issues, the architecture is flexible enough to allow the use of other UI technologies. On new projects we now create and edit forms using Angular JS using REST services. This has made our developers much more productive and the forms perform better.
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Regarding the Process Analytics feature, which features are you referring to?
Oracle BPM should ensure its product is aligned with current technology by keeping up with advancements like AI. There are delays in offering the latest technology, so there is a need to be more responsive to technological changes.
Oracle BPM should allow integration with external, common APIs.
The solution's licensing cost is very high.
The stability of this solution deteriorates when more than one thousand instances are concurrently active.
The Oracle database is not an easy product to maintain.
I would like to see the next version of this solution be simpler and more transparent about what is happening at the level of the database. This would allow users to better understand problems.
The technology that is being used for the UI needs to be updated to make it quicker. Oracle is using the ADF technology, which is a very heavy framework. Oracle cloud uses the JET framework, which is much faster and consumes fewer resources.
Oracle needs to return some of their focus to the Fusion products, rather than concentrating so heavily on cloud-based technologies.
Overall, the engine and the UI both have to be made lighter.
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The product must reduce its cost. It will help it compete with other open-source tools evolving in the market.
In terms of our overall data science solution, pricing is an area that could use improvement. However, in terms of features, the analytics perform exceptionally well. The entire suite could benefit from faster processing, and that's an area for improvement. Pricing should be looked into. Additionally, the technical understanding of the company and the team is not as fast as it could be. So, more focus on marketing is needed. We have very few skill sets, even from the technical team, that understand the platform. Customers tend to look for open-source solutions without fully understanding the capabilities of the Oracle BPM solution. So, marketing would be crucial to showcase its features.
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Oracle BPM could benefit from improvements in its user interface, integration capabilities, and performance/scalability. These enhancements would enhance user experience and make it more adaptable to various business needs. Refer this source : CCSP Training
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The price is a little expensive for me. The ROE could be improved. The time it takes to get from deployment to production could be faster. We had to make a lot of little changes in the design. Enabling those changes, testing, and deploying the solution becomes time consuming. If there's a specific issue with the product itself, then interacting with the customer support team and getting the new package or new updates from Oracle is time consuming.
Though Oracle BPM is a stable solution, it's very heavy, so this is one area for improvement. If Oracle can make the components of Oracle BPM lighter, and if the deployment for the solution could be easier, that would make Oracle BPM better.
Oracle BPM is hard to configure and requires some experience to use it. It is a complicated tool. The documentation could also be improved. It is hard to easily find configuration information or user manual on the internet.
Oracle BPM is not used directly by our customers. It is a tool for developers. Oracle tried to make it a tool for business users too but from our point of view, this positioning is wrong. For example, one of the critical features that is not working well enough, is migration of processes when you deploy a new version of processes. Every time we roll out a new version of processes, we have to migrate to a new process. The process of this migration was not very smooth. We later decided that it would be easier for us to stop all processes, deploy a new version and then restart. We use our own interfaces because the standard interface was not sufficient for our customers. We tried the business rules, but after some time, we stopped using them. Right now it's mainly the process management functionality that we use.
Oracle BPM could probably be improved with respect to the cost. When you are using this product, it'll be a bit costlier for the ROA. I think they should do some discounts on these products, especially for the licenses.
From my knowledge of this solution, I don't see that the Oracle BPM includes features such as the growth of discovery and process mining. Technical support could be better. In the next release, I would like to see the growth of discovery and process mining features added. Also, the ability to be containerized, and to support the cloud-native deployments.
The solution needs to offer better integration with third-party systems. The solution should focus more support towards new department methods that assist with the architecture of the deployment itself.
We have had some issues with version migration, from one version of processes to another. We would have to call Oracle Services but on a day to day, we didn't have any issues. I would like for the design of the migration of process instances from one version to another to be more visual. It would be very helpful to have visual tools in order to design the equivalence of tasks and process payload between versions. Until now bpm database migration has been needed. I would also like more UI flexibility, the ADF framework is too Oracle-specific.
The stability of this solution deteriorates when more than one thousand instances are concurrently active. The Oracle database is not an easy product to maintain. I would like to see the next version of this solution be simpler and more transparent about what is happening at the level of the database. This would allow users to better understand problems. The technology that is being used for the UI needs to be updated to make it quicker. Oracle is using the ADF technology, which is a very heavy framework. Oracle cloud uses the JET framework, which is much faster and consumes fewer resources. Oracle needs to return some of their focus to the Fusion products, rather than concentrating so heavily on cloud-based technologies. Overall, the engine and the UI both have to be made lighter.
The API interfaces could be more robust. Existing APIs in the product need to be fine-tuned, made more robust and flexible for adoption. The product should be made available with all its current capabilities addressing known shortcomings on the cloud. I would like to see current out-of-the-box MIs enhanced, offering more interactive capability. Introduce machine learning and AI capabilities. Change the front end and the ability to offer forms for business users.
In the future, the market is consolidating towards microservices approaching software development product. Microservices can be the future of programming, and the old way of doing middleware and implementing middleware services could shift to the microservices side, so we will need some hybrid solutions. At this time, we use the microservices, and microservices will support external digital applications that we publish on mobile and website. We will keep using the middleware side for delivery and back office systems. Therefore, it will not be 100% microservices or it will not be 100% middleware, but instead we are going to use a hybrid approach where some parts use microservices. Thus, it would be good if they could provide some additional connectors or an application developer environment for microservices. It could have easier administration. It takes time to configure and deploy. We need more team messaging buzz, like Kafka. People do so much business and logic coding in an ESP site, but what we need more of is lightweight messaging mechanisms, like Kafka. This is also the trend. We need some type of pretense for best practices for new generation programs, which can serve digital customers.
Support for Decision Modelling Notation (DMN). There is a Business Rule Engine available, but this is not DMN-compatible.
Although it is a robust product, its learning curve can be steep without having the proper training and mentoring on the first project. As with most BPM projects interaction with people is a key element. Creating user interfaces the end users see and interact with as work item instances travel through process can be challenging. If ADF is used, most companies struggle due to its complexity, steep learning curve, and the need to tune it for performance. The web form design tool in Composer (currently an OEM product from Frevvo) is simple to use for citizen developers, but can be lacking in the functionality most projects need. To get around these issues, the architecture is flexible enough to allow the use of other UI technologies. On new projects we now create and edit forms using Angular JS using REST services. This has made our developers much more productive and the forms perform better.