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IBM BPM vs WSO2 Carbon [EOL] comparison

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Categories and Ranking

IBM BPM
Average Rating
7.8
Reviews Sentiment
6.6
Number of Reviews
113
Ranking in other categories
Business Process Management (BPM) (3rd), Application Infrastructure (8th), Process Automation (6th)
WSO2 Carbon [EOL]
Average Rating
9.0
Number of Reviews
1
Ranking in other categories
No ranking in other categories
 

Featured Reviews

Ateeq Rehman - PeerSpot reviewer
Unit Head System Implementor at Allied Bank Limited
Automation platforms streamline processes and offer flexibility, but AI integration and version upgrades pose challenges
In the technology world, there is always room for improvement. Technologies evolve day by day, especially with the emergence of artificial intelligence and generative AI models. Although IBM BPM is a substantial product, adopting and integrating new technologies quickly is not easy due to the migration and upgrade paths involved. Every time new versions are released, we face business and production challenges that make rapid adoption challenging. The main concern bothering me today regarding IBM BPM is the integration of AI components.
it_user420135 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior System Architect & Consultant at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
It allows you to deal with any mediation situation based on messages using concepts like proxy services and APIs.
The Data Services Server is a beautiful product which allows you to "expose" your data as REST and/or SOAP services secured or not using any of the databases you might to keep your business data. Using with the Identity server it gives you the possibility to manage all the identity subjects in your Organization, it connects out of the box to any corporate user store you have through LDAP or JDBC, it allows you to manage different mechanisms to implement authentication / authorization using Web SSO, SAML2, OAUTH2, federated authentication, among others. Also, it allows you to control all this through its administrative interface which could be exposed out of the box as SOAP services and also you can use it to implement role based access controls using XACML policies and business claims.

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"We can scale by increasing the infrastructure which is currently running."
"There is information during the process that the analyst will look at, their procedures. We created a part of the application such that the business can change those procedures as needed, on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. As the reps go through the process, they don't necessarily know it's changing, they just know they have to refer to some documentation, and the business can keep that up to date."
"It has improved my organization quite a bit. It brought awareness to what the business processes are, even to the business side, who did not necessarily know what they are."
"This solution has many valuable features, including: Timer-based escalations and SLA implementation, team filter service to identify and assign to an appropriate set of users based on branch, location, product, scheme, loan amount approval limit, etc., a process portal that provides a single place to access the tasks for different processes, lazy loading of sections, state-of-the-art controls in the user interface, easy and quick implementation of web services, easy and quick implementation of Java integrations, and easy and quick implementation of connecting or calling the database using in-built integration services."
"Using it, I have created elegant, user-friendly, and performant end-user graphical interfaces that allow end users to complete their tasks in the most enjoyable and easy way."
"Our teams are liking BPM better because it's faster to set up and they have showcased two or three projects where they were able to do them in a three-month cycle, where it really should take them seven or eight months, and it would take more in Pega."
"There is a component of this BPM pool - I can't recall the name. What it does is, it allows you to create various scenarios and then run them quickly, before actually putting them onto a tool. So I think that part of the tool is really fantastic, because that enables you to create scenarios, create simulations, before actually going out and putting it into the tool itself"
"Our clients were previously using Excel sheets for processes, and it has changed their whole life as now the processes are all automated."
"The Enterprise Service Bus is really fast and flexible, it allows you to deal with any mediation situation based on messages using concepts like proxy services, APIs, and it has lots of connectors that facilitates its interaction with other products."
 

Cons

"We would like to see this product cloud-native, as the market now is moving to both hybrid cloud and multi-cloud deployments."
"I would like to see the solution be able to interact with other customer software solutions."
"Better integration with other products in the automation suite."
"IBM BPM can improve the dashboards and reports. It only has two dashboards, and reporting is very difficult to build."
"I would like IBM to consider including AI-enabled process mining, robotic process automation, and very good OCR capabilities from the computer vision side."
"It is a really powerful tool, but its entry price is so high, which makes it a very exclusive club for who gets to use it."
"The product is extremely complex to use and administrate."
"The major issue is the pricing, which is very high. IBM BPM also lacks smaller solutions, so I must purchase multiple solutions to start with workflows and applications."
"In a general sense, the documentation of these products should be improved."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"The product is expensive considering the hardware and software costs."
"​We have definitely seen ROI. When we first kicked it off, we said it had to pay for itself within three years, and it did."
"IBM BPM is expensive, so most large companies opt for IBM based on their licensing options."
"I rate the tool's pricing a seven out of ten."
"We have a yearly licensing model. It is not expensive. There are no addition costs to the standard license."
"We chose to purchase IBM BPM because it was bundled with the actual RPA program/solution that we decided to purchase. We decided to use Automation Anywhere tool (RPA), and it is was bundled with IBM BPM."
"Due to its extensive features and capabilities, the product pricing is more aligned with medium—to large enterprises."
"I already compared some solutions related to business process management, and I saw that the cost of IBM BPM is more expensive compared with that of Camunda, for example."
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Top Industries

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Financial Services Firm
19%
Outsourcing Company
10%
Construction Company
9%
Manufacturing Company
8%
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Company Size

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Small Business30
Midsize Enterprise19
Large Enterprise72
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Questions from the Community

Which is better, IBM BPM or IBM Business Automation Workflow?
We researched both IBM solutions and in the end, we chose Business Automation Workflow. IBM BPM has a good user interface and the BPM coach is a helpful tool. The API is very useful in providing en...
What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for IBM BPM?
Once it is installed, maintaining it is not a big issue.
What needs improvement with IBM BPM?
There are negative aspects, such as IBM BPM being quite heavy and not lightweight, and the licensing cost is higher, which has caused some companies to shift away. IBM BPM is complicated to install...
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Also Known As

WebSphere Lombardi Edition, IBM Business Process Manager, IBM WebSphere Process Server
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Sample Customers

Barclays, EmeriCon, Banca Popolare di Milano, CST Consulting, KeyBank, KPMG, Prolifics, Sandhata Technologies Ltd., State of Alaska, Humana S.A., Saperion, esciris, Banco Espirito Santo
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