How has it helped my organization?
It has set times for set jobs that have to run, jobs that previously would have been done by someone manually. JAMS covers that now. But it also helps afterward. If I have to run something on four or five servers at a set time every day, I would have to make it run, check a log file on that server, and flip about between all the servers. Now that I have it in a central location, that is much easier.
For my job, in operations, and for IT, it has definitely helped to centralize the management of jobs on all our platforms and applications. If it didn't do that, we wouldn't use it. When our contract with a competitor was up, we looked at other companies, like VisualCron, that were cheaper, but one of the main sticking points was the fact that they wouldn't have provided a central location for us to monitor across all servers. That was one of the biggest selling points of JAMS.
It enables us to scale quicker, and it has saved countless hours of manpower. I can actually fire-and-forget some of the stuff now. I know that JAMS is going to tell me if some of the basic tasks haven't succeeded. I can do more things with my day. It handles about 1,000 processes for us a day, processes that would require something else, and about half of them that would require a user or person on our side to do something.
It has helped to free up IT staff time in every way. If I had to do all the things that JAMS does for us, I might not get to do anything else. Four to five hours of an eight-hour shift are probably saved by having JAMS do things for me. Everything that JAMS does is what our entire team would do for the day. But because we don't have to do that, we're free to work on other tasks not related to operations, such as customer issues or our ticketing system. If we didn't have JAMS we would put something else in. There would be no way we could do everything without JAMS. Or we would do it, but it would be a nightmare. At least fifty percent of our overall staff's time, of seven people's eight-hour shifts, is saved.
JAMS is also giving us more access to data that was there. It has improved our ability to process and ingest it. We're a financial company and we run on schedules and set times and changes to data are important.
Another factor is that it certainly helps save time when troubleshooting stalled jobs. The fact that it will give you the log as it is written, rather than having to wait for something to finish, is helpful. At least you can see how far along the process or application has gotten and that gives us a place to go when troubleshooting. We have the ability to start and stop something if we need to.
The amount of time it saves us would depend on what has failed. We don't have a lot of failures because we can't afford to have failures. But it could save us about ten minutes on a job in investigating what step it failed at. When a process is running, if we know exactly where it failed, it means we don't have to go into a database or go look at logs to figure out how far along we are. Or if a job had to write 20 pages and we look at the JAMS log and it shows it has only written 10, we know where to go look. Whereas if it just said "stalled", we wouldn't know where it stalled.
Also, we had our own bespoke file-watch system, but the JAMS file-watch is so reliable that we use it for monitoring that sort of thing. It has removed personal monitoring of jobs and having to go in and look for things, but we needed to create JAMS into a separate monitoring system. It has definitely helped.
What is most valuable?
Some of the valuable features for us are the
- automation
- scheduling of tasks
- file watching
- dependability.
It's basically a super version of Windows Task Scheduler.
Adding Interactive Agents is extremely important to us. Running interactive tasks gives us a central location for multiple processes across multiple servers. If we didn't have JAMS, and we were using just a standard Windows Task Scheduler, we would need some way to log in to multiple servers at the same time, look at jobs and check if one had finished and then kick off another one. You can do all of that by just following one item in JAMS. You can set sequences with a dependency on one thing finishing before something else will start.
It's very good at bridging the gap between structured batch automation and processes happening on desktops. That's really what we do with it. It does its job and it does it very well.
I also like the way it handles exceptions. It can handle its own exceptions, but we can also configure it to handle exceptions from our bespoke applications. If there's a certain return code, we can get bespoke errors. That means it can either give you a JAMS error saying, "Something happened within this job", or it can give you, as the error, what happened within your application. That's very important to us because we hook it up to a different system and what comes out of JAMS goes into a different system separately. It works.
What needs improvement?
The documentation is not super. There are things that I want to do in JAMS, but I just haven't gotten my head around them yet. For example, I keep saying that workflows would be really handy for us. We can't risk moving our production stuff or testing stuff there. But when I'm testing in the UAT environment, I run out of jobs. They have examples that don't apply to my situation when it comes to running things. The documentation is probably all there, but it's not the easiest to navigate through. It's not as quick and slick as I'd like it to be.
Their support team is a live chat and they are top-notch. I can say I have a job that's failed because of something, and they can probably give me a pointer, really fast, on what's happened, but I wouldn't use them if I'm trying to learn a new functionality or process. I wouldn't ask them to give me a complete step-by-step. That's not their function. They would probably point me to some documentation that would be a massive PDF or some support page, but I just lose the will to live reading them.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using Fortra's JAMS for two or three years.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability is fine. I have had no problems with it. It's one of those things that has never gone wrong for me.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It's very scalable. You would only be restricted by the number of jobs that you are licensed for. You can buy a license for, say, 10 jobs and scale to 10 jobs. You could buy a license for 2,000 jobs and scale to that. The costs go up massively, though. The ideal would be to have unlimited jobs; that would be amazing. Technically, JAMS can be as scalable as your infrastructure will allow, but it's probably not as scalable due to what your wallet will allow.
How are customer service and support?
Their technical support is excellent. They're a straight-up 10 out of 10; really good. I've only ever contacted them via email and live chat. Once, when I couldn't get through on the live chat, the guy made a Teams meeting with me, we shared screens, and he went through it, because there was some strange error I was getting.
Those guys are brilliant. And if you don't get them on live chat, someone picks you up on an email very fast. I can't say enough good things about JAMS for support.
I wouldn't bother them with questions about how I should do something. I would only use them when I have set up something and it's not running as I think it should and I don't know how to make sense of it. But if I've done, say, 80 percent of the work and it's still not working, they will say, "Oh, well, you've missed these four configurations."
How would you rate customer service and support?
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
JAMS has made us more productive. We didn't have to hire someone new to do some of the stuff we wanted to do because we could pawn off some of the work on JAMS.
How was the initial setup?
Once you get all the basic server permissions in place, the setup is easy. It pretty much does it itself. You install the main client and a few files. You configured it a bit, and then installing the agents is easy. It's more about the infrastructure you have set up. That is where your main issue will be.
It's on-premises. We deploy a central client on a server, and there are agents that go onto production servers, like an application server, a database server, or a web server. You can set all your jobs from the central location and it will run them on the actual production server. Take, for example, a PowerShell script. You put all of that into the main client and it just runs that wherever you're asking it to. That's what the agents are.
From "blank" to actually getting JAMS working took half an hour. But it depends on how far you're going with it. If I wanted to just get the JAMS client and one agent set up, that would take half an hour. But we have loads of servers and we're constantly adding to it. Per agent, it takes about 10 to 15 minutes.
We didn't migrate to JAMS from something else. You configure all the jobs, but you wouldn't want JAMS to help you with that because they're your jobs. You're telling it what to do. We went from manual tasks. It all depends on the size of your deployment and how much you want JAMS to do, as well as on the complexity of your jobs. Some of your jobs could be one-liners and some of them could be multiple steps and they can go up to massive complexity.
What about the implementation team?
We did it in-house. We knew what we wanted to do with it. Most of our stuff is command or PowerShell, SSIS, and SQL. And if anything goes wrong when trying to set up a job, we talk to their support team, but we're fairly handy with what we are doing.
Installing the actual application took two or three people, and included someone setting up permissions and someone configuring things. But in terms of setting up how our JAMS works compared to a blank JAMS, everybody gets involved.
What was our ROI?
I'm sure we have had ROI in terms of how productive we are and what our output is, but I wouldn't be able to quantify it.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Definitely check how many single processes you want to run and count them as jobs. That is how you would work out your pricing on JAMS. For example, if you're running a number of commands and you can put them all into one script and run that script, you can count that as one job. That job count is where you're limited, per day.
You purchase a number of jobs in your license. You can be clever with that by combining things into one job. If you can configure it right, you can get around those limits and save some money.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
There are loads of other applications that do similar things, like Octopus Deploy, but they are for installers.
Our shortlist came down to VisualCron, which we tested as well, and JAMS. The reason we went with JAMS was that if I have JAMS open, I'm probably on a page called monitor. That is the list of upcoming jobs that it's about to run or jobs that are executing. After a job has run, it will sit there for about ten minutes and then it will go to a historical page. That monitor page is vital because it shows us what's coming up and how something is executing as it's happening. It gives you a log of updates and you don't have to wait for that until it has finished the job. You can see the log in progress.
The benefit of VisualCron was that it gave us an unlimited number of jobs, but an updated scheduling page like that literally wasn't feasible.
We didn't test the other solutions we looked at mainly because of cost. Our main requirements were cost and the number of processes we could run a day.
What other advice do I have?
If you're looking at JAMS, you probably know what you're looking for. It's a scheduling tool that probably integrates with whatever you're already doing. It takes the manual stuff out and it can connect to just about everything Windows already, including SQL Server, PowerShell, and the command line.
If you have a lot of manual tasks that you run, JAMS can probably run them for you. You'll want something reliable like JAMS.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
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Hi Swadhin –
Thank you so very much for leaving us such a detailed review and for being a JAMS customer! I am the managing director / general manager for JAMS at Fortra.
If you have time, I’d really like to speak with you more about how we can improve SOX-related features to help with audits and also file retention. Also, would you be willing to elaborate on what improvements our support team could make to improve your rating from an 8 to a 9?
Always happy to chat anything and everything JAMS! My email is peter.hegland@fortra.com if you ever need anything.
Best,
Peter Hegland