What is our primary use case?
In most cases, our use cases were for migration and conversions. People were coming off of dated Cisco platforms and other types of firewall technologies that might not have met next-generation standards, like App-ID. Then, Palo Alto Unit 42 had to go out there and investigate with threat hunters, etc, which was not that well-known or used. Then, Palo Alto sort of showed everybody that world back in 2007 or 2008.
Mostly, I was dealing with people migrating off of their platforms onto Palo Alto. Unfortunately, in most cases, they wound up just converting them into service-based firewalls, like what they were already using, because they weren't ready to accept the requirements behind actually creating an effective App-ID policy yet for their company.
It wasn't well adopted at first. Even though everybody wanted it, people were putting it in and not really fully deploying it. Once I started working for Palo Alto, we had a whole lot more control over getting people to actually utilize the technology, like it was meant to be used. Mostly, it was going in as a service-based firewall with some App-ID. However, people weren't really taking advantage of the SSL decryption and other things necessary to truly utilize the firewall effectively.
I have an active customer who has 600 users using Palo Alto. I have another active customer with 300 users using Palo Alto.
How has it helped my organization?
It helps the organization function better by virtue of cleaner and more predictive Internet access and usage being conducted by the employees and constituents of the company. It helps ensure that they have a stronger security posture. It is preventive medicine If you have DNS Security in place. You will be happy you had it. If you don't have it, you may never need it. However, if you did need it, and didn't have it, you will wish that you did. It is one of those things, like insurance.
What is most valuable?
Machine learning is definitely here to stay. Machine learning has to be a part of everybody's solution now, especially going out into the cloud where we don't have as much hardware control. We don't control our perimeters as much anymore. We need to have machine learning. So, machine learning has been a critical point in the evolution of this product.
DNS Security incorporates Unit 42, WildFire, and all the rest of their antivirus and threat features. It can be very effective because it will know about these bad actor zones and DNS hacks before it gets to your network, which is important. Everybody should be using it, but I haven't found as many people adopting it as they should.
For anything manipulating TCP 453 or any type of DNS-type application, you will want to be all over that. It is definitely a big problem.
What needs improvement?
It is not a unified solution yet. That is probably why it has been hurting them in the cloud evolution. It does not have a complete single-pane-of-glass management,
For how long have I used the solution?
I worked for Palo Alto for about three and a half to four years. I retired from them last year. Before that, I was with Juniper firewalls. So, I have about 10 years experience, on and off, with Palo Alto in various, different scenarios.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
They push stuff out that is not quite ready. If you use the product one version back, then you are pretty good. However, if you try to stay cutting edge, you are going to run into stuff that doesn't work. They are forever releasing stuff that doesn't work right or as designed. Every company does that though, so it is just a question of who is worse. You need to be careful with some of the newer stuff that they release. You need to bake it very well before you put it into production.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I am not absolutely certain they have done a good job in scaling out. They may start to suffer now and going forward because there are other, more cloud-ready platforms out there starting to shine over Palo Alto. They are not the prodigal son anymore.
It has limited scalability since it is still very hardware-centric. They have a cloud VM model, but I haven't had too much experience with it.
How are customer service and support?
The tech support was once great, but now it is poor. The tech support has gone south. It is really difficult. I had a Priority 1 case last a week in their queue, and after multiple complaints, I finally got somebody to take the case. These are things that are unacceptable in the business world. They could train their employees better.
Several years ago, I would put technical support at eight or nine out of 10. Now, they are down around two or three, which is really low. I have had very bad luck with their support lately.
How would you rate customer service and support?
How was the initial setup?
It depends on whether you are coming in from a migration, which means that you expect everything that you will be doing to be out-of-the-box. It has to be if you are putting it in place. You can then evolve it from there to make it more capable.
I find the technology pretty easy to work with. Some people don't find it as straightforward. That probably leaves some areas for improvement, where people almost have to do a boot camp to fully take advantage of the product. That shouldn't be the case for a new customer. It should be a little bit more seamless than it is, but it's not bad. I can't really knock it. It is fairly simple to employ, if you know what you are doing.
Most migrations take anywhere from two to six weeks.
What about the implementation team?
I did the deployment. I was using it while I was at Palo Alto. I am still managing them, even outside of Palo Alto. It has been a consistent experience.
What was our ROI?
The return on investment doesn't necessarily show right away. However, if a company gets hacked and taken down, they are out of business. So, was your return on investment strong if you put these firewalls in and it prevented that? Absolutely. However, if you put them in and you never get attacked, then you might ask, "Would you have gotten attacked before?
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
There is a license for DNS Security, which I have never actually licensed, but it is a very powerful tool. DNS security is important, and I think that Palo Alto's capabilities are effective and strong there. However, I don't find a lot of companies taking advantage of it.
This is not the firewall to choose if you are looking for the cheapest and fastest solution. Palo Alto NGFWs are expensive. By the time you license them up and get them fully functional, you have spent quite a bit of money. If it is a small branch office with 10 to 15 users, that is hard to justify. However, my customers will do that if I tell them, "You still need to do that," then they will do it since it is still an entry point into the network.
You really need Premium Support, Applications and Threats, DNS Security, and antivirus. The extra bolt-ons, such as Advanced URL Filtering, you need to determine by use case where you are going to use those licenses, then see if you really need them. You might be adding a bunch of licenses that you will never actually get to effectively use. Their licensing model has gotten a bit exorbitant and a la carte . You will wind up spending quite a bit of money on licenses and renewals.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
There is another company out there that I like quite a bit in the firewall space who does a really good job and has a very fast, inexpensive firewall. That is Fortinet. My two favorite firewall companies are Fortinet and Palo Alto. I recommend Fortinet in cases where people don't have the money, as you can get a very nice solution from Fortinet for a lot less money. Fortinet is a good player. I like Fortinet.
Palo Alto's interface is a little nicer to work with, e.g., a little easier and more intuitive than Fortinet. This makes Palo Alto a little nicer for the end user, but Fortinet is a kick-ass solution. I would never downplay it. It is definitely really strong. For $600, you can get a fully functional next-generation firewall on Fortinet, and you can't do that with Palo Alto. That is a world of difference in pricing.
What other advice do I have?
Machine learning is taking logs and feeding them back through. Everybody is doing machine learning now. You need to have some type of machine learning in order to understand what is going through your environment since you can't be predictive anymore, like you used to be able to be. There is no way of knowing what things are going to do. Therefore, machine learning helps the firewall become smarter. However, machine learning is only as good as how it is utilized and how effectively it is deployed, and it is not always obvious. With Palo Alto, it was difficult to get the API keys and whatnot to work correctly, getting real, effective, actual, usable machine language stuff to use in the policies. It was a lot more hype than reality.
Their zero-pass architecture is not really zero-pass, but it is better than others. It still has to run the traffic through again, once it is recognized at the port, service, and route level, to be acceptable. Then, it has to bring it back through to try to recognize the application. So, it is not necessarily a 100% zero-pass, but the way it works.
It is like in the Indianapolis 500 when a car pulls into a pit stop. Instead of having one place in the pit stop where the tires are changed, another place in the pit stop that does the windows, and another place that does the gas, they have all the guys come around the car and do their work on the car at the same exact time. That is what is happening with Palo Alto. The packet gets there and the services attack the packet versus having to run the packet through the mill. That is what makes it faster, but it still has to do it more than once before it really knows. It is definitely better than what anybody else has done up to this point.
With a single-pass cloud, we are not concerned with hardware as much anymore. Now, we are concerned with technology, implementation, and how controls are deployed. That is more important now than where the hardware is, e.g., if the hardware is integrated or deintegrated. I don't know if that is even that important anymore, but it was at one time.
As long as you are comfortable with the price point, you are not going to make a mistake going this way. It is definitely best-in-class and a first-class firewall. I would never be ashamed of putting Palo Alto Networks NGFWs into my network. It's a very good product. As much as I might complain about this and that, there isn't any product that you would put in the network where you are going to have 100% confidence in it. There will always be something. Palo Alto NGFWs are the best way to go.
I would rate this solution as nine out of 10.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.