It didn't go live with it.
Sap HCM is not a flexible solution to meet our requirements.
It didn't go live with it.
Sap HCM is not a flexible solution to meet our requirements.
There are several issues with GuI, and it's not easy to use. Additionally, it requires a significant amount of configuration, and we haven't been able to find anyone who can meet our specific data configuration needs. But the major issue it's a really old fashion app. We are in 2023, there is no need to use an app that looks like this.
It's been around two years now. We already had SAP in our company, and we already were working with a partner to finalize all the configurations, but it didn't succeed. So it's not working yet.
It is a pretty stable solution.
It is a scalable solution. For other modules, it's around 100 to 200 users in my company. We had 12 administrators.
The customer service and support team is okay for all modules. But for HCM, we couldn't find a dedicated consultant to assist us.
Negative
It was difficult to deploy. However, it has already been deployed, but there were challenges regarding configurations and implementation. So, we had a lot of issues.
The setup took around one year. Because configuration included our requirements and making the rules, ensuring compliance with insurance rules and governance tools. It's like insurance policies in Egypt or something similar that may affect the SAP HCM system.
The pricing is really high. Compared to Odoo, it's very high. However, if you already have the other modules, it's okay. But SAP will cost you a lot of money.
We are looking to switch to Odoo. It seems easy to use. It is very, very easy to use and configure according to our requirements.
I don't recommend implementing SAP HCM. It's not good at all. Overall, I would rate the solution a three out of ten. It is primarily due to complexity, configuration, and pricing.
Currently, we use it for payroll and to maintain our master data. As I explained earlier, the retail portion is still on SAP, and then we have the administration staff, like HR, finance, etcetera, which are on SuccessFactors and EC. Plus, we use HCM because payroll is on-prem. So, we operate on an on-prem and hybrid cloud model.
I think that with the cloud's introduction and because of the new changes, SAP HCM will become dormant. The talent components in SAP HCM are not really viable anymore. One thing that I know is that SAP HCM has no workforce planning. But in the olden days, we had personnel planning, which worked very well for finance or budgeting. So if there was something similar to it in the solution, I'm not too sure about it since I haven't had all the exposure to workforce planning to see how different it works from personnel planning.
I have experience with SAP HCM since 2012. I am a customer of SAP HCM.
I think HCM was the most stable for me, but it's because I had experience with it. If I do two or three more implementations and you have to ask me the same question regarding its stability, I would give a different answer.
It is a very scalable product.
In all honesty, I must admit that I haven't had any direct interaction with SAP's technical team. The credit for the successful implementation of upgrades, notes, and overall planning goes to the data teams I worked with since the collaboration with these teams and the individuals involved was always very good.
We completed the planning, blueprint planning, config addition, and testing for the initial setup. We also incorporated the USB and provided support. Throughout the process, we focused on various areas of HCM, such as personnel administration, org management, personnel planning, qualification catalog, and skills catalog. We developed different views using third-party products for the old structure view, which worked across all platforms and publishers. As we progressed into TalentHR, SuccessFactors acquired that component, leading to its discontinuation in SAP development.
While "onboarding" typically refers to straightforward hiring, SuccessFactors introduced a distinct definition for it. Consequently, a considerable amount of customization development was involved in personnel management and administration. Additionally, I created a solution for employee wellness, an area where SuccessFactors is not particularly strong. When it comes to disability management and health and safety, SuccessFactors lacks the necessary features. In certain cases, government regulations in South Africa require the employment of disabled individuals. However, the onboarding process may not adequately cater to disabled individuals, such as those who use wheelchairs. Addressing disabilities is a significant aspect, and SAP would greatly benefit from creating a dedicated module for it.
Managing changes in applications can be challenging since it complicates testing and unit testing, resulting in longer testing phases. This time-consuming process often leaves little room for actual work. These are crucial factors that SAP should consider when evaluating their product, including upgrade releases. While providing updates to clients is essential, SAP should take additional steps to ensure a smoother process, potentially by creating a dedicated partner to handle these tasks instead of relying solely on implementing partners. SAP should also focus on delivering more presentations and sharing valuable content directly rather than leaving it solely to implementing partners.
I recently attended a presentation that impressed me, and I would appreciate receiving a copy as promised. During the session, I asked if the presentation would be made available, and the speaker confirmed it would be accessible afterward. However, I have not received anything yet. This is an area where SAP needs to improve by taking ownership and not relying solely on implementing partners to fulfill such commitments. SAP should have a dedicated partner responsible for managing and delivering content, focusing on forthcoming changes. This could include webinars where participants worldwide can access different speakers discussing specific localizations. For instance, if I want to listen to a presentation about localization in South Africa, I should be able to select the corresponding audio and video content. The presentations could be pre-recorded for ease of access, and having an individual available to answer questions during the session would be beneficial.
HCM is cheaper than SuccessFactors. The only thing is that SAP is now threatened and has to stop doing the development. I can tell you this since if I didn't, a lot of people would stay on-prem, as we call it.
It is a different story regarding the implementing partners because one has to differentiate between them and the product. A lot of times, the product gets a bad reputation because of the implementation partners and the knowledge that they bring to the table. I rate the overall solution a ten out of ten.
My primary use case for the solution was managing employee data and handling all payroll-related operations. It included managing employees from their entry into the company until their exit and resolving any errors within the system.
The product significantly improved our organization by automating many processes, which reduced paperwork and provided clearer, more accurate goals and competencies.
The most valuable feature of the SAP HCM solution was its integration with SuccessFactors, particularly the Performance Management feature. This integration allowed for effective employee performance and payroll data management.
The product could be improved in terms of cost. Additionally, having a reliable support partner who thoroughly understands our needs and can promptly address issues would enhance the overall user experience.
I have worked with the SAP HCM solution for five years.
The product is stable.
The solution is scalable.
Our experience with customer service and support was moderate. While the support provided by the vendor was helpful to some extent, some areas required improvement in terms of understanding our specific needs and providing timely solutions.
Neutral
We are planning to switch to a local program due to financial constraints.
The initial setup was straightforward. We followed the guide and translated our company's needs into the system, making the process smooth and manageable.
We implemented the solution with the assistance of a vendor team.
The product is expensive.
SAP HCM is a powerful program that can greatly benefit organizations with its comprehensive features and integrations. However, companies should be mindful of the costs and ensure they have the necessary support infrastructure.
I rate it a nine.
We use SAP HCM for recruitment and payment modeling features.
It is a valuable product that helps our company organize payment structure, recruitment, and talent management.
The platform is simple to use and has a user-friendly dashboard and integration features.
The product's license is very expensive.
I have been working with SAP HCM for seven years.
It is a stable platform. I rate the stability an eight.
Our organization has 300 SAP HCM users working from the finance, administration, HR, and engineering departments. I rate the scalability a seven or eight. It is a scalable product.
The technical support team is responsive.
Neutral
We also use SAP S/4HANA, a business suite product from SAP. It enables financial, controlling, and material management.
I am a technical expert, and thus, it is very simple to install for me. They have documentation to refer to. However, configuring HR processes, including reporting and workflow features, can be challenging. The deployment depends on the number of employees. It takes around three to six months to complete the process. We have a team of three technical executives. One resource can maintain the product. SAP also provides support to each customer for maintaining the application. They release updates every year.
The product generates a return on investment with the capability to develop and manage the talent in the company. It helps with detecting talent, employee rotation, and managing resources. We can make a decision on employee retention using SAP HCM.
It is an expensive platform. The pricing depends upon the specific model and number of user accounts included in a bundle. The licenses for 1000 users might be less expensive than licenses for 100 users. We have to pay around 20% of the license cost for maintenance and support services for two years.
I recommend SAP HCM to others. It is a very useful application that can centralize the management system. We can integrate it with S/4HANA for financial features.
I rate it an eight out of ten. I would not rate it a nine as it requires specific change management and deployment training. It is a new application, and users need to familiarize themselves with the functionality.
With SAP HCM, decision-making is very helpful. Every data that's related to our employees is stored in the solution. We are an organization of over 2,000 employees, and the solution has helped to maintain a database for everyone.
All our employee data, like performance and payroll, is managed through SAP HCM.
SAP HCM's long and tedious transactions can be improved.
We have been working with SAP HCM since 2004.
We have never faced any stability issues with SAP HCM. We have an on-premises system and never faced any server issues or technical glitches.
SAP HCM is a scalable solution.
SAP HCM's technical support was on point. I appreciate that every data we wanted, every help, reconfiguration, or customization we wanted in the system, happened as soon as the request was made.
Positive
The system is now becoming outdated because it involves all the transactions and is very detail-oriented. We want to move towards the cloud solution they're offering.
The solution's maintenance happens weekly for us because we have a lot of customizations done in the system. We're directly in contact with the SAP facilitation team, and they do it for us, the local partners in Pakistan.
Before choosing SAP HCM, users should consider the transaction time, how the data is being configured, and how the data or report generation comes out for them.
Overall, I rate SAP HCM an eight out of ten.
We have different structures dealing with the enterprise, starting with enterprise structure, employee structure, payroll structure, and other structures in SAP Human Capital Management. We make these structures in SAP HCM and deal with organizational management and other information related to personnel administration, management, payroll, and personal actions. HR deals with different master and permanent data aspects. The administration aspects, the different functionalities, and the processing features in the personnel administration are necessary to define default values and business authorizations like decision-making. Other use cases include personnel calculation rules and different schemas, sub-schemas, rules, recruitment, e-recruitment, and time management, including positive and negative time management. SAP HCM is also important for payroll processes, including country-specific payroll. Training for event management is also a sub-module to prepare candidates for training events and event management, booking events at the company's internal cost. SAP HCM also covers employee and manager services. Along with that, integration interfaces, and human resources are reporting.
We have features such as ABKRS based on the client's requirement, tariff and TMSTA, and so on.
What cannot be facilitated through the product's standard functions can be done through development. Success factors also come into the picture in the new cloud management aspect and integrations. For instance, S/4HANA. The two aspects are development, with reports, interfaces, conversion, enhancement, prompts, and smart forms. The reporting aspect covers employee and manager self-service, anything the employee can do. Then there are already success factors for the cloud solution which cannot be integrated into S/4 HANA.
I have worked with SAP HCM for about ten years.
The solution is stable.
The solution has chain management, so it is scalable and climbing up. Some of my clients are smaller and medium-sized businesses, while others are enterprises.
The initial setup is not difficult. The time we take to deploy the solution depends purely on the project's scope, size, and budget. On average, it could take one to two years, but sometimes it can take longer or less time.
I have seen a return on investment. In the long run, I need to check the depreciation. After calculating the depreciation on the cost of this solution, I can count the return on investment. Based on what the client invested in the project, SAP HCM is stretching as per their business process while minimizing their wastage. And as per the decision-making, clients can save a lot of revenue.
The solution is cheap. Suppose a client can afford to purchase their software and hardware on-premises, even if it's expensive. In that case, that's okay because they can afford their agenda, which is an on-premises installation for security. And some clients who cannot afford the same, but allocate it to a business expansion, can choose either a private cloud or public cloud, sometimes operating in a hybrid mode. Some clients can pay a subscription if they want to go for a certain route.
Now and then, SAP changes as per the requirement. Earlier, it was ECC, and some clients still run on databases with limited aspect software. In 2012, they came up with S/4HANA. I'm comfortable with the previous one and the new one, S/4HANA, including on-prem and on the cloud.
I rate the solution a ten out of ten because clients have received a return on investment.
We use the solution for organizational management, personal administration, time tracking, etc. It helps us integrate file management with payrolls and the payroll cycle.
The solution has powerful capabilities for managing small, medium, and large businesses. They provide the most stable and powerful technology in the areas of human resources, information systems, and ERP.
We aim to keep business and business scenarios updated and customized within the system. Thus, we want to receive frequent updates.
We have been using the solution since 2013.
A survey within our corporation describes HCM as a stable solution.
It is a scalable solution.
The solution's support team always addresses our problems very well.
We know that HCM serves a specific field of business and a specific corporation with particular needs. It comes with a set of challenges as well. The biggest challenge for us was re-engineering our business processes to match the standards of HCM in best practice. We eventually implemented most of our processes successfully.
I rate the solution as a seven.
SAP HCM is used by our clients for all their business processes, such as HR, finance, procurement, and supply chains.
SAP HCM has a good performance.
SAP HCM could improve by having more resources and making it more user-friendly. It is complex.
I have been using SAP HCM for approximately 20 years.
The stability of SAP HCM is good.
SAP HCM is a scalable solution.
We have over 20 clients using this solution.
The support services are not good for SAP HCM. It could be faster.
I have previously used other solutions, such as Oracle.
The initial implementation of SAP HCM is complicated. It's complicated for users and for implementers. It took a lot of time to do the implementation. For example, to do the complete UK payroll implementation, can take approximately nine months.
The amount of people we need to support the solution depends on the project, but per client support, you need approximately 10 people to support one client.
The cost of SAP HCM is high, the license should be reduced. SAP HCM has a lot of hidden costs.
There are two people have to do before implementing SAP HCM. One is the license cost. SAP HCM has a lot of hidden costs. They charge per module, they should be aware of what exactly they are going to use. They have to be clear about whether SAP HCM is a good solution for them or possibly another one, such as Oracle.
I rate SAP HCM a seven out of ten.
